Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?



Mukund Sivaraman <muks banu com> writes:

Many distros ship GIMP, even slightly patched versions for bugfixes or
better integration into their environments. This improves the experience
for users. Formally registering a GIMP trademark may not be seen in a
good light by distributions, even if we readily wish to see them use the
name. See Firefox vs. Iceweasel for example.

The Firefox *logo* did not meet Debian Free Software Guidelines. Since
Debian didn't want to include non-free artwork, and Firefox's trademark
policy is that you need to include the logo to call it Firefox, it was
rebranded for Debian. If Wilber were a non-free artwork, Debian would
not include it regardless of trademarks, but I see Wilber at
https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gimp so I'm pretty sure the logo
must be Debian-proof :) And
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GIMP_Icon.svg says public domain.

Even though GIMP is an established project, we generally don't want to
spend time as contributors to fight a legal battle. There are even
questions of whether we *should*, i.e., whether an established free
software project has to register trademarks and involve lawyers to
protect it from being misused this way.

Is trademarking completely out of the question? I see not only Firefox,
but ImageMagick, Inkscape, GNOME, GNU and Linux in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trademarked_open-source_software –
Inkscape being of similar "size" to GIMP, does anyone know how much work
it cost them to register their trademark, and how much it costs them to
keep it?

Reading through
https://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2008/foss-primer.html#x1-60000k5
it doesn't look too bad in terms of money. (The whole section on
trademarks there is worth reading.)

Also, it seems you may in fact call it GIMP™ already, since you have
certain "unregistered rights" to the trademark just because GIMP has
been used by this project as a trademark in practice. (But "®" requires
registering.)

If you have a trademark, but never object to anyone using it in
commercial/confusing settings, it might get lost. But you can avoid
having to explicitly say yes to every distro and similar "good usage" by
having a simple license like GNOME does:
https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/FoundationBoard/Resources/LicensingGuidelines
See also https://www.gnome.org/logo-and-trademarks/

Then there's the nasty part, which is actually going after abuses. SFLC
says:

If you disapprove of someone’s unlicensed use which infringes upon your
exclusive rights, you should send a polite email to the infringer
notifying them of your claim to the mark, and that their use is
unacceptable. You might suggest a licensing arrangement, contingent on
some changes in their usage of the mark. If you believe such an
arrangement is impossible, ask the violator to fix the problem. Be
polite but firm. It is often the case that license violations are
inadvertent and easily fixed. Offer to help the violator take whatever
steps are needed to achieve compliance, and avoid threats of publicity
and lawsuits for as long as possible. Make sure the violator understands
that your primary concern is the project’s reputation, not a large
financial settlement. Once you convince them of that point, they are
likely to respond more positively even if they were initially
unresponsive. 

I'm pretty sure people are used to doing this kind of "polite-but-firm"
emailing wrt. GPL violations anyway, except that with a registered
trademark you have some weight behind you to do it with malware
distributors such as SourceForge as well.


-- 
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

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