Re: [Gimp-gui] GIMPs text dialog font search box can become completely empty

[Jehan <jehan girinstud io>]

Hi,

On 2016-08-22 10:36, Josef Ridky wrote:
> Hi, I am new co-maintainer of GIMP package in Fedora and RHEL.
>
> Following request has been submitted to me:
>
> When adding or editing a text box in GIMP,
> the list of fonts can become blank if you
> delete what is in the font search box.

Well you deleted what was in the font entry, so yes it is blank. If we 
prevented it from becoming completely blank, nobody could ever change 
the selected font. ;-)

> When that font box is empty, there should be
> a tool tip or an icon of a search magnifying glass
> to designate what it is to show the user
> that it is a search box.

I don't feel like any of this would *really* help. The user deleted the 
text there by oneself, so obviously one knows what this field is for, 
no? What I could imagine is showing the currently selected font (or some 
descriptive text: "Select font" for instance) as some shadow grey text 
(i.e. the "placeholder" attribute on input fields in html5), but I have 
no idea if GTK+2 (or even GTK+3) can do this by default.

> Original bug report: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1368207
>
> Is possible to include this request into new release, or it hasn't
> sense to solve?

I think something could definitely be done to improve user experience on 
this point, though I am not sure how much your proposition would do the 
job. But basically most of the experience related to the text tool is 
really terrible. I'm not sure it makes sense to spend too much time for 
this specific issue when I think it is only a drop in the text tool 
mess. I'd prefer to have a UX designer work with us to rework the whole 
tool experience. I had been discussing with a few of RedHat designers at 
GUADEC and I welcome their UX input! (we even discussed the text tool 
specifically with Jimmac) My offer stands.
I say this since I see you have a RedHat email, so you can spread the 
word. :P

Now if someone provided a patch adding a search icon in there when it is 
empty — or even better a shadow placeholder text à-la-html5 — I would 
probably accept the patch (though I am not the maintainer so Mitch may 
have another idea).
But for us, that's otherwise not a priority and I doubt we will put it 
in the GIMP 2.10 roadmap. This is more a "if someone provides a patch" 
than a "we have to do this".

> Thanks for advice.

You are welcome. I hope this was a helpful answer.

Jehan

> Regards
>
> Josef Ridky
> Associate Software Engineer
> Core Services Team
> Red Hat Czech, s.r.o.
>
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