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Re: [Gimp-gui] Layer mask button for the layers toolbar, feature additions?



On 12/14/2015 03:52 PM, Jehan wrote:

Hi,

On 2015-12-14 21:00, Ben wrote:

I had posted a patch to a bug report to add support for a button to be
added to the toolbar for the layer dialog/widget (see
https://imgur.com/wkyxoqM), but it's been suggested i post here for
starters to start a dialog. So here i go :)

I was wondering what the reticence to having the button there was.
Photoshop has a similar feature to add layer masks which avoids having
to reach for the menu to enable it.
It does not look too bad to me. But then there are other features in the right-click menu which are often used too. We just can't add them all. 
I don't really have a strong opinion here.


It was originally suggested i just make a keyboard shortcut but for me
and i would think for a lot of people that would not be exactly
feasible. I already have too many apps that could make use of that and
too few keys on the keyboard i could de-allocate from them as-is :)

For me and most folks coming from photoshop who may give GIMP a try
would find this slowing us down considerably in our work flow
(especially when working on composites where masking is heavily used).
As a side note, comparing GIMP to Photoshop will never be the reason to a decision. We would choose to implement something because we decide that it is a good design, whether Photoshop does it or not (or even the opposite!).
I'd already understood that going through the various bug reports prior to bug report and this post :)
My point still stands, which is the gimp way in this instance may not be the best way of doing it or the only way to clarify. Either way adds whats needed. Though i do admit it will make the it a bit more crowded should the button be added but not overly so. 


Hence why i came up with a patch to add a button to add them from the
interface and opened a bug report for that.

Having said that, i've spent the week since pondering an alternative
that could solve everyones dilemma, which would be to add the ability
to ctrl-click the selected layer to enable a layer mask (which if that
were added, it would be trivial add the opposite effect to remove the
layer mask by also ctrl-clicking).
Ctrl-click definitely not IMHO. We want to add multi-layer selection at some point and ctrl/shift clicking are common mouse usage for multi-selection. Unless this is ctrl-click on some specific place of the layer (like we have shift-click which has a particular meaning when on the eye and chain icons of the layer).
Valid point. It hadn't dawned me because gimp never had group/multi layer selections before. hmmmm. Maybe it would be best to have it toggle by ctrl-clicking the image in the layer but that would probably still cause confusion in the future with multiple layers selection :(
Also adding another icon besides the link and visible icons might make it feel even more crowded than the bottom button would though that could be a third option.
As a side note i've always found that to be an irritation to not be able to select multiple layers to work on or with. Well that, the layer mask selection and not having non destructive layers :) **Kneels and prays to the gegl gods** lol. 




I haven't looked at the code yet (been busy with this whole icon
themes business lol) so not sure how feasible/work it involves but if
it will never get added there isn't much point for me to go on and try
to implement it.

So here we are, what do you all think?


I'm not sure. It does not look like a bad idea.


Which one the button or the ctrl-click idea.



Jehan
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