Re: [Gimp-docs] Gimp Manual Roadmap proposal

["Joao S. O. Bueno" <gwidion mpc com br>]

So - while we don't make a major decision about the roadmap (hello LGM
:-)  ), or have a branch to work on changes for GIMP -2.10  - do we
have at least a wiki page where we can take notes of things that
should go into the manual?

(I'd be for creating a "2.10" branch and start editing the XML english
SRC there - there will be quite a lot of news for this release, and it
would be said to have to wait over an year for the manual to catch-up
when it is out).

I remebered this e-mail thread because I added some changes to the
"align" tool yesterday, which would make for 1 or 2 paragraphs in the
manual - but also, now, looking at the logs I saw just this:

"""
commit dd648b1c1264a70ade137276293e827b40954eca
Author: Michael Natterer <mitch gimp org>
Date:   Sun May 19 22:21:38 2013 +0200

...skipping...
    Don't allow tool operations on invisible items, just like we do for
    group layers or locked items.

    Cleaned up and enhanced the patch a bit --Mitch
"""
Which means: trying to paint in an invisible, active, layer works up
to GIMP 2.8, but is a NOp in
GIMP Master.
It is there for over an year, and I had not taken note - yet, it
should be mentioned in the manual, as
it is in some aspects a big change  in the way GIMP used to work. (And
I see no drawbacks in it)

   js
 -><-

On 12 February 2014 00:21, Roman Joost <romanofski gimp org> wrote:
> Dear RyoTa,
>
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 11:52:13PM +0900, RyoTa SimaMoto wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am warry about to use Publican.
> >
> > Publican prohibits to use <link linkend="...">WORD(S)</link> tag
> > then allows <xref linkend="..."/> tag only for internal hyperlink.
> > (xreflabel is also disallowed.)
> > http://jfearn.fedorapeople.org/en-US/Publican/3.2/html/Users_Guide/appe-Users_Guide-Disallowed_elements_and_attributes.html
> >
> > That means we need revise whole text so that each targeted section
> > has a <title>.  In much cases on our document, we use <link> with
> > verb/noun for representing an action, a filter, or a tool of GIMP
> > instead of using its title in the reference section.  To replace it
> > with <xref>, almost links may be reformed in 'see also' style,
> > because it cannot be replaced with other adjusted phrase for inline
> > context at referring text.
> Cheers for pointing this out. It seems that this needs to be looked at
> closer in order to figure out the best way to go about it. A migration
> seems to be quite costly...
>
> > I presume some translators may unwelcome this restriction especially
> > for languages that have conjugation and/or declension, when <xref>
> > tag happens in the middle of text structure.
> Thanks for this valuable pointer. To keep the discussion for this topic
> in one place, would you mind moving this to the associated bug?
>
>     https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723512
>
> Cheers!
> --
> Roman Joost
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> email: romanofski gimp org
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