Anyone use KDE?

[Kanwar Plaha <kwr2k1 yahoo com>]

I do. Its a great way to compile KDE, in fact. Thank
you very much.

Vicky

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>    1. Upcoming GARNOME Changes / Anyone use KDE? /
> Need a Co-conspirator! (Jeff Waugh)
>    2. Re: OT: No gtk-cleanice-engine = RIP
> elysiuym.zoned.net? (Rafal Krzewski)
>    3. libxml2-2.4.24 & gcc-3.2 compile issues?
> (michael stattmann coremedia com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 09:26:29 +1000
> From: Jeff Waugh <jdub perkypants org>
> To: GARNOME Dudes <garnome-list gnome org>
> Subject: Upcoming GARNOME Changes / Anyone use KDE?
> / Need a Co-conspirator!
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> So I'm considering some changes to GARNOME as we
> move into the 2.1.x release
> series...
> 
> 1) New Heirarchy. Again.
> ------------------------
> 
> Currently everything's organised under fairly hokey
> project-based
> directories, ie. gnome/, kde/, gstreamer/ with misc/
> providing a dumping
> ground for Random Stuff and meta/ including garballs
> with dependencies only.
> I'm keen to move this to a release-based system,
> like the new FTP site. So
> we'd have something like:
> 
>   platform/   GNOME Developer Platform
>   desktop/    GNOME Desktop
>   fifth-toe/  GNOME Fifth Toe (cool apps)
>   office/     GNOME Office
>   misc/       Miscellaneous extras provided by
> GARNOME, could just call this
>               'extras', but it could be 'garnome'
> (for 'GARNOME Desktop').
>               Not entirely sure, but I really don't
> like having three levels
>               of 'garnome' in CVS. :-) This
> directory would mostly include
>               not-quite-GNOME dependencies (such as
> libesmtp, etc).
> 
> ... and thus, no need for meta/, as you can just go
> into any of the release
> directories and type 'make install' to get its
> contents. Very nice.
> 
> The second organisational change is to add new
> branches for 2.0.x and 2.1.x.
> I'm going check in all of my 2.1.x stuff at some
> stage, but it makes sense
> to have two versions running. I don't know why,
> because this is meant to be
> a testing system, but anyway... Perhaps we are
> getting too bold. But it's
> fun anyway. :-)
> 
> Thus, we'd have different version numbers for
> GARNOME releases, and a number
> of branches. Listed here with released tarball names
> and CVS branch/tag
> names.
> 
>   Tarball                  Branch      Tag
> 
>   garnome-2.1.0.tar.gz     HEAD        GARNOME_2_1_0
> 
>   garnome-2.1.0.1.tar.gz   HEAD       
> GARNOME_2_1_0_1
>   garnome-2.0.0.tar.gz     gnome-2-0   GARNOME_2_0_0
>   garnome-2.0.0.1.tar.gz   gnome-2-0  
> GARNOME_2_0_0_1
>   garnome-1.4.1.tar.gz     gnome-1-4   GARNOME_1_4_1
>   garnome-1.4.1.1.tar.gz   gnome-1-4  
> GARNOME_1_4_1_1
> 
> The fourth number is for GARNOME point releases
> (that make up for fuckups).
> The rest of the version number shows which version
> of GNOME it will build.
> Yes, that really is "garnome-1.4.1", and it means
> what you think it means
> (if you've been reading and paying attention, those
> not doing so can stay
> after class). :-)
> 
> This does cause some complications for CVS usage,
> however. When a project
> shifts releases, do you move it over in the repo,
> copy it over in the repo
> (and delete it in the new branch), or just create
> and delete on the new
> branch? If you moved it in the repo, the old
> releases would change too,
> which is not correct. I think we'd have to just
> create/delete without
> touching the repo. Otherwise the history would
> poison the other bracnes...
> 
> Anyway, open to discussion about this.
> 
> 
> 2) Anyone use KDE?
> ------------------
> 
> Does anyone actually use KDE in GARNOME? I'm tempted
> to move it out due to a
> lot of bad voodoo caused by the changes described in
> point 1. If each
> version were maintained on a separate branch, where
> would KDE live? Would we
> have to update it in each branch all the time? How
> much would that suck
> (hint: a lot).
> 
> We could always create a new KDE release alongside
> the 1.4/2.0/2.1 releases,
> but probably better to maintain it in a separate
> directory in CVS. Not sure.
> 
> Thoughts on this?
> 
> 
> 3) Need a Co-conspirator!
> -------------------------
> 
> So, with all of that happening, and 2.1.x gaining
> steam, I'm going to need a
> co-conspirator to help out with GARNOME. Currently,
> it's just me. I'd prefer
> someone who already had GNOME CVS access, simply
> because that's a trust
> metric I can work with immediately. :-) However, if
> you're competent with
> GAR, and are mostly interested in maintaining the
> 2.0.x stuff, please let me
> know regardless of your access to GNOME CVS.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Jeff
> 
> -- 
>      Broken hearts rarely come with "Some Assembly
> Required" stickers.      
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 14:47:49 +0200
> From: Rafal Krzewski <rkrzewsk ngo pl>
> To: garnome-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: OT: No gtk-cleanice-engine = RIP
> elysiuym.zoned.net?
> 
> Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> >>Been wondering whats up with this domain for a
> while now. I'm pretty sure
> >>it's been down for over a month at least. Can't
> seem to find gtk-cleanice
> >>anywhere else either.......If anyone has the
> cleanice package, I'll post
> >>it up! Not a big deal, just wanted to see if
> anyone knew the scoop.
> > 
> > Oh. See, I use a GARCHIVE, which means I sometimes
> don't find out about
> > download issues... I'll have to ask dobey what
> he's doing with cleanice.
> 
> The problem with elysium.zoned.net seems to persist.
> I 
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