Re: [evolution-patches] (mail) displaying only those account which are enabled in "From" field of composer window

[guenther <guenther rudersport de>]

On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 19:28 +0530, Shreyas Sriniavasan wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 13:42 +0200, guenther wrote:
> [snip]
> > Did you just say you finally fixed this long outstanding UI issue?
> >   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=243241
> > Now this is getting weird. Sorry, I did not test this patch yet, though
> > I probably will give it a shot soon.
> [snip]
> > * If the user has *no* account enabled, he probably should not even be
> >   able to compose a new message.
> > * Alternatively, use the default account in From and do send the mail
> >   using that account. (I'd prefer this, I think...)
> 
> The messages with no from are not placed in the Outbox. They are placed in the
> drafts folder. I see no issue with this,

I do -- if sending places the mail in Drafts automatically without
noticing the user, standing right behind him constantly reminding him
that there is a mail not yet sent... ;)

> there is no rule which states that 
> the user cannot write mails if he has no account configured. IMHO this is 
> acceptable. oh btw the send button should be disabled :-)
> 
> > I really don't think it is a good idea to have mails stuck in the
> > Outbox. It's way too late for the user to realize he screwed up his
> > settings at this point. He maybe won't even notice at all for a long
> > time.
>
> Mails with no from *should* not go to OUTBOX they should go to DRAFTS.

At the very least. Although this is confusing the user:

* If "send" moves the mail to Outbox, this will cause trouble.
  Regardless how you do alert this to the user.

* If "send" is disabled, most users probably simply are lost.


> > If the user disabled all his accounts, he has to be aware of this
> > *before* he even tries to write a mail, IMHO. Either this, or it
> > magically just has to work using the default account
> 
> Well, i agree, infact this is one of the thing i suggested too and is 
> probably do-able. If no account is enabled and the user writes a new mail
> and clicks send then we should just enable the default account and send the 
> mail. Ofcourse there could be problems of lock-ups here but if such is not the
> case that should be the way to go.

Likely the best option IMHO, and least confusing. It just works.


Anyway, I failed to properly stress an important question in my previous
post:

  Did the UI team decide about bug #243241 yet?

Although I did file this bug originally, Michael got a point with
comment #12, and others might have good arguments as well [1]. There
actually are real downsides and benefits. That's why I did not push this
bug, but rather leave it up to the UI team to decide about it. [2]

...guenther


[1] Didn't read that lengthy discussion again entirely.
[2] Did I mention, we're still waiting for a decision by the UI team? ;)


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