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Today's Topics:
1. Contact CSV export (Caleb Marcus)
2. Re: Contact CSV export (Caleb Marcus)
3. Evolution and Gmail's spam filter (Caleb Marcus)
4. Re: Offline message cache encryption with a Master Password?
(Patrick O'Callaghan)
5. Re: Offline message cache encryption with a Master Password?
(Caleb Marcus)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:55:40 -0500
From: Caleb Marcus <caleb marcus gmail com>
Subject: [Evolution] Contact CSV export
To: evolution-list gnome org
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Now that I've got my contacts all set up on Evolution, I'd like to
import them into my Gmail account. However, Evolution only seems to be
able to export VCard files, and Gmail requires a CSV. Without importing
and re-exporting it with something that supports both (like Thunderbird)
can I export my contacts as a CSV file to use with Gmail?
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:59:53 -0500
From: Caleb Marcus <caleb marcus gmail com>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Contact CSV export
To: evolution-list <evolution-list gnome org>
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Ugh, Thunderbird doesn't support VCard... dammit. I seem to remember an
extension to add VCard support, though... but I'd certainly like a more
elegant way of doing it, Thunderbird tends to mangle things.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:55 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote:
Now that I've got my contacts all set up on Evolution, I'd like to
import them into my Gmail account. However, Evolution only seems to be
able to export VCard files, and Gmail requires a CSV. Without
importing and re-exporting it with something that supports both (like
Thunderbird) can I export my contacts as a CSV file to use with Gmail?
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:11:37 -0500
From: Caleb Marcus <caleb marcus gmail com>
Subject: [Evolution] Evolution and Gmail's spam filter
To: evolution-list <evolution-list gnome org>
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Gmail's spam filter doesn't always catch everything, and I'd like to use
Evolution's SpamAssassin support to filter my inbox as well. However,
Evolution doesn't give me an option of what to do when a message is
marked or detected to be spam... it just applies its own spam label. I'd
like for it to move the message to Gmail's spam folder so I don't have
to deal with issues stemming from Gmail's interpretation of Evolution's
"deleted" tags, as well as other problems it has, so I'd like the
ability to just set it to move it to Gmail's spam folder.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:20:57 -0400
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" <poc usb ve>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Offline message cache encryption with a
Master Password?
To: Caleb Marcus <caleb marcus gmail com>
Cc: evolution-list gnome org
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On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:38 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote:
I've gotten to the point where my email address is in so many places
online that I get one or two spam messages every day that Gmail
doesn't catch... when I used POP, SpamAssassin would catch everything,
but now that I use IMAP, I don't have spam filters applied... if I
check off the spam filtering in Inbox thingy in teh account settings,
will it automatically know to download the body, or will it just run
SpamAssassin on an empty message body?
I assume it will only download the header, which is why I suggested it.
If Evo junk filtering is off for the Gmail account, it won't
automatically run SpamAssassin for these messages and therefore won't
download the bodies until you decide to read or preview them. Of course
if you hit the Junk button I would expect Evo to download the message
and run SA for learning purposes
POP is different because the entire message will always be downloaded,
independantly of any filtering.
poc
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
AFAIK, Evo caches the *headers*, unless you explicitely open the message
of course, but note that applying junk filters may also imply
downloading message bodies, since both SpamAssasin and Bogofilter do
Bayesian analisis of the message text. Since Gmail has its own junk
filtering, you might want to disable Evo junk filtering for your Gmail
account. In fact Gmail recommends this.
Evo has no built-in way to encrypt the cache, though I guess a plugin
could be written to do it. As others have said, you can always use other
Linux tools for filesystem encryption.
poc
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:20 -0800, Ari El wrote:
Recently I discovered gmail's new IMAP feature. The next minute I was setting
evolution up to access my gmail account. I noticed evo's google/imap account
cached thousand of messages (some headers, some full messages), and also
found that the cache is made persistent even with me *not* selecting "mark
for offline reading". Meaning that if I close evo, then reopen, at first I
get asked for the imap server password, but even if I dont enter it, I can
see the full local cache of the imap folders and all recent message
contents.
I don't like this.
Is there a way to force evo to encrypt the local cache (imap account and
also the exchage account if possible), so that I get asked for a password to
open the local cache (or better, the default gnome keyring could be used)?
any hint on how to do this?
TIA
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:23:17 -0500
From: Caleb Marcus <caleb marcus gmail com>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Offline message cache encryption with a
Master Password?
To: evolution-list <evolution-list gnome org>
Message-ID: <1194402197 5815 36 camel caleb-laptop>
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I understand that IMAP will download only the header... what I was
asking is that if I enable spam filtering for the Inbox, will Evolution
be smart enough to download the entire message in order to check for
spam, or will it just not work unless I manually enable the downloading
of entire messages.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 22:20 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 20:38 -0500, Caleb Marcus wrote:
I've gotten to the point where my email address is in so many places
online that I get one or two spam messages every day that Gmail
doesn't catch... when I used POP, SpamAssassin would catch everything,
but now that I use IMAP, I don't have spam filters applied... if I
check off the spam filtering in Inbox thingy in teh account settings,
will it automatically know to download the body, or will it just run
SpamAssassin on an empty message body?
I assume it will only download the header, which is why I suggested it.
If Evo junk filtering is off for the Gmail account, it won't
automatically run SpamAssassin for these messages and therefore won't
download the bodies until you decide to read or preview them. Of course
if you hit the Junk button I would expect Evo to download the message
and run SA for learning purposes
POP is different because the entire message will always be downloaded,
independantly of any filtering.
poc
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
AFAIK, Evo caches the *headers*, unless you explicitely open the message
of course, but note that applying junk filters may also imply
downloading message bodies, since both SpamAssasin and Bogofilter do
Bayesian analisis of the message text. Since Gmail has its own junk
filtering, you might want to disable Evo junk filtering for your Gmail
account. In fact Gmail recommends this.
Evo has no built-in way to encrypt the cache, though I guess a plugin
could be written to do it. As others have said, you can always use other
Linux tools for filesystem encryption.
poc
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:20 -0800, Ari El wrote:
Recently I discovered gmail's new IMAP feature. The next minute I was setting
evolution up to access my gmail account. I noticed evo's google/imap account
cached thousand of messages (some headers, some full messages), and also
found that the cache is made persistent even with me *not* selecting "mark
for offline reading". Meaning that if I close evo, then reopen, at first I
get asked for the imap server password, but even if I dont enter it, I can
see the full local cache of the imap folders and all recent message
contents.
I don't like this.
Is there a way to force evo to encrypt the local cache (imap account and
also the exchage account if possible), so that I get asked for a password to
open the local cache (or better, the default gnome keyring could be used)?
any hint on how to do this?
TIA
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