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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4 (Cabral, Carlson)
   2. RE: IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4 (guenther)
   3. RE: IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4 (Cabral, Carlson)
   4. RE: IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4 (guenther)
   5. Re: Evo 1.4 -- Killing X? (Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper)
   6. No more detachable menus? (Stuart Luppescu)
   7. Re: No more detachable menus? (Norman P. B. Joseph)
   8. Re: No more detachable menus? (Jason Tackaberry)
   9. Re: No more detachable menus? (Stuart Luppescu)
  10. Re: IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4: use offlineimap!!! (Alfons
Hoogervorst)
  11. Re: Evo 1.4 -- Killing X? (Bradley M Alexander)
  12. How to purge calendar and tasks records. (Ron Hauptfleisch)

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Message: 1
From: "Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>
To: 'Chris Gow' <cgow digitalfairway com>, evolution lists ximian com
Subject: RE: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:58:55 -0400

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This message might be off-topic, but could you Ximian Monkeys (note, I
capitalized both ;-)) out there give us a hint on when 1.4.1 is scheduled
to
be released? I want to use Evolution again...

Thanks,

Carlson

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Gow [mailto:cgow digitalfairway com]
Sent: July 8, 2003 8:37 AM
To: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4


Tried them all in different combinations...no luck :(

Any other ideas?

-- chris

guenther wrote:


I've recently installed Ximian desktop 2.0 on my Suse 8.2 computer and I

am having issues with getting IMAP in Evolution 1.4 to work. Whenever I

connect to my IMAP server the message 'Scanning folders in IMAP

server....' displays for a couple of minutes but no email is ever

downloaded.  I noticed that the pre-release of 1.4 had an issue that

required you to remove and recreate your IMAP account. I tried that but

it still didn't work.  I can get my mail via IMAP from Mozilla with no

problem. I get prompted for a login and if I enter the wrong password I

get an error, so I know it can connect to the server.





In the Mail Account Settings under tab Receiving Options, do you have

disabled "Show only subscribed folders" and set the correct "Folder

Namespace" if needed?



...guenther









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  [mailto:cgow digitalfairway com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> July 8, 2003 8:37
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> evolution lists ximian com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Evolution]
  IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Tried them all in
different
  combinations...no luck :(<BR><BR>Any other ideas?<BR><BR>--
  chris<BR><BR>guenther wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid1057615389 2992 8 camel localhost type="cite">
    <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><PRE wrap="">I've recently installed Ximian
desktop 2.0 on my Suse 8.2 computer and I
am having issues with getting IMAP in Evolution 1.4 to work. Whenever I
connect to my IMAP server the message 'Scanning folders in IMAP
server....' displays for a couple of minutes but no email is ever
downloaded.  I noticed that the pre-release of 1.4 had an issue that
required you to remove and recreate your IMAP account. I tried that but
it still didn't work.  I can get my mail via IMAP from Mozilla with no
problem. I get prompted for a login and if I enter the wrong password I
get an error, so I know it can connect to the server.
    </PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE wrap=""><!---->
In the Mail Account Settings under tab Receiving Options, do you have
disabled "Show only subscribed folders" and set the correct "Folder
Namespace" if needed?

...guenther


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Message: 2
Subject: RE: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: "Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 08 Jul 2003 15:30:14 +0200


This message might be off-topic, but could you Ximian Monkeys (note, I
capitalized both ;-)) out there give us a hint on when 1.4.1 is
scheduled to be released? I want to use Evolution again...

I dunno, if one might call me Ximian Monkey, but...

1.4.1 will never be released AFAIK, due to a serious bug with those
tarballs 2 weeks ago. ;)

1.4.2 will be the next release -- and it seems, release hopefully will
be soon...

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 3
From: "Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>
To: 'guenther' <guenther rudersport de>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: RE: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:35:20 -0400

Thanks for your reply guenther. However, I've heard the word "soon" before
:-) I was just wondering _how_soon_ this might be. A week? Two weeks? A
month? And if It's 1.4.2 or 1.4.6, doesn't really matter. All I want is my
favourite program on Earth to work again!!!

Cheers,

Carlson

-----Original Message-----
From: guenther [mailto:guenther rudersport de]
Sent: July 8, 2003 9:30 AM
To: Cabral, Carlson
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Subject: RE: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4



This message might be off-topic, but could you Ximian Monkeys (note, I
capitalized both ;-)) out there give us a hint on when 1.4.1 is
scheduled to be released? I want to use Evolution again...

I dunno, if one might call me Ximian Monkey, but...

1.4.1 will never be released AFAIK, due to a serious bug with those
tarballs
2 weeks ago. ;)

1.4.2 will be the next release -- and it seems, release hopefully will be
soon...

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1: (c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}

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Message: 4
Subject: RE: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4
From: guenther <guenther rudersport de>
To: "Cabral, Carlson" <ccabral craworld com>
Cc: evolution lists ximian com
Date: 08 Jul 2003 15:49:56 +0200


Thanks for your reply guenther. However, I've heard the word "soon"
before
:-) I was just wondering _how_soon_ this might be. A week? Two weeks? A
month? And if It's 1.4.2 or 1.4.6, doesn't really matter. All I want is
my
favourite program on Earth to work again!!!

Well, as Mark Gordon in the users mailing list exposed his currently
(yesterday) installed Evo version (yes, it was 1.4.2 :) judge the
meaning of "soon" by yourself.

However, AFAIK there are still some issues with packaging.

...guenther


--
char
*t="\10pse\0r\0dtu\0  ghno\x4e\xc8\x79\xf4\xab\x51\x8a\x10\xf4\xf4\xc4";
main(){ char h,m=h=*t++,*x=t+2*h,c,i,l=*x,s=0; for (i=0;i<l;i++){ i%8?
c<<=1:
(c=*++x); c&128 && (s+=h); if (!(h>>=1)||!t[s+h]){
putchar(t[s]);h=m;s=0; }}}


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Message: 5
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4 -- Killing X?
From: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR movingparts net>
To: Bradley Alexander <storm tux org>
Cc: Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 08 Jul 2003 10:33:10 -0400


On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 08:05, Bradley Alexander wrote:
I have noticed an increasing problem of late, on my Debian/unstable
workstation. I'm running Evo 1.4.0 from deb from the Debian archive.


I have the same setup.  Running 1.4.0-4 from debian sid.  And yes, I've
seen what seems to be the same kind of problem.  But mine typically
happens when I tell evolution to shut down.  I've reported this to the
list in the last month (look for "evolution taking 5+ minutes"...).  It
has never been figured out what was causing this horrible problem that
makes my system completely unusable until evo is done.

I have discovered that if I have more than one dictionary enabled,
things take a REALLY long time (like tabbing off of the To: text field
takes 2+ seconds), and if I only have one dictionary enabled, things
seem snappier.  I've also noticed that since I've only enabled one
dictionary (I previously had American, British, and Canadian enabled),
my 5+ minutes of shutdown hell have become more like 1+ minutes.

Also, I've ran strace after strace on evolution shutting down, and have
captured what it's doing when I see X become completely unresponsive.
It doesn't look like evolution is directly doing anything.  The only
weird thing that I see whatsoever is this:

before I shut evolution down, top shows XFree86 as using around 2k of
SHR memory.  When X goes into throes and doesn't come out again for
minutes at a time, I see that it now is using around 40Megs of SHR
memory.  I don't know what this means, but it doesn't seem good.  =:/

Anyone?

The problem I have seen manifests itself in one of two ways. Either the
X process will run away on me (CPU pegs with the prime offender being
XFree86 at something like 99.7%. I can't get the display to come up at
the console and generally have to ssh in and kill X), or when working at
the console, I will do something and it will cause X to kick me out and
go back to an xdm login.


Have you tried waiting for it?  Like I noted above, I've seen this and
have had to wait 5+ minutes some times for X to come back.  I'm also
running a P4-1.8 G machine with 1G of RAM (I don't know how that
compares with your machine, but if it's not as robust, the 5+ minutes
may be more like 10+).

The thing that I have noticed several times is that the activity that
causes me to be kicked out when sitting at the console is clicking the
Send/Receive in Evo. I had it happen to me just this morning with one
Eterm and evo running. I am beginning to suspect that the runaway
processes (which generally happen overnight when evo is running as
opposed to during the day when it is not) is also evo autochecking mail.
Has anyone seen behavior similar to this? Is there a fix for it?


I sure hope so!!  Please keep the list updated, since I'd give money to
not have to go through minutes at a time of a completely useless
computer.

Thanks,
--

,-----------------------------------------------------------------//
| Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper ::  Numbers 6:22-26
 `
 | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
 | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end.  That is
 | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
 ,
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Message: 6
From: Stuart Luppescu <s-luppescu uchicago edu>
Reply-To: s-luppescu uchicago edu
To: Evolution list <evolution ximian com>
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: 08 Jul 2003 10:00:39 -0500
Subject: [Evolution] No more detachable menus?


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One thing I really liked about Evolution 1.2 (I guess it was a feature
of Gnome 1.4) is the ability to detach the View -> Message Display menu
and leave it pinned to my desktop, so I could easily view headers or
load images whenever I wanted to. Is there no way to do this anymore
with Evolution 1.4?
--=20
Stuart Luppescu -=3D- s-luppescu .at. uchicago.edu       =20
University of Chicago -=3D- CCSR=20
=1B$B:MJ8$HCRF`H~$NIc=1B(B -=3D-    Kernel 2.4.20-xfs-r3               =20
You had some happiness once, but your parents moved
 away, and you had to leave it behind.=20
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Message: 7
Subject: Re: [Evolution] No more detachable menus?
From: "Norman P. B. Joseph" <joseph ctcgsc org>
To: s-luppescu uchicago edu
Cc: Evolution list <evolution ximian com>
Date: 08 Jul 2003 11:37:43 -0400

Are you also using XD2?

I have XD2, Evo 1.4 on a Red Hat 9 box, and have detachable menus.

Try running "gnome-ui-properties".  It has a check box for making
toolbars detachable.

-norm



On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 11:00, Stuart Luppescu wrote:
One thing I really liked about Evolution 1.2 (I guess it was a feature
of Gnome 1.4) is the ability to detach the View -> Message Display menu
and leave it pinned to my desktop, so I could easily view headers or
load images whenever I wanted to. Is there no way to do this anymore
with Evolution 1.4?
--
 Norman Joseph, Systems Engineer           joseph ctcgsc org      IC|XC
 Concurrent Technologies Corporation         814/269.2633         --+--
 Global Systems Center                                            NI|KA

  ***  Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle  ***


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Message: 8
Subject: Re: [Evolution] No more detachable menus?
From: Jason Tackaberry <tack auc ca>
To: s-luppescu uchicago edu
Cc: Evolution list <evolution ximian com>
Date: 08 Jul 2003 11:44:09 -0400

On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 11:00, Stuart Luppescu wrote:
load images whenever I wanted to. Is there no way to do this anymore
with Evolution 1.4?

It's a GNOME 2 thing.  Run:

gconftool-2 -s /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_tearoff --type bool
true

You'll probably have to restart Evo.

Jason.

--
Jason Tackaberry  ::  tack auc ca  :: 705-949-2301 x330
Academic Computing Support Specialist
Information Technology Services
Algoma University College  ::  www.auc.ca



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Message: 9
Subject: Re: [Evolution] No more detachable menus?
From: Stuart Luppescu <s-luppescu uchicago edu>
Reply-To: s-luppescu uchicago edu
To: "Norman P. B. Joseph" <joseph ctcgsc org>
Cc: Evolution list <evolution ximian com>
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: 08 Jul 2003 11:14:09 -0500


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On ?? 2003-07-08 at 10:37, Norman P. B. Joseph wrote:
Are you also using XD2?
=20
I have XD2, Evo 1.4 on a Red Hat 9 box, and have detachable menus.
=20
Try running "gnome-ui-properties".  It has a check box for making
toolbars detachable.

This makes the toolbars detachable. It doesn't have any effect on the
menus. However, Jason Tackaberry's suggestion to run gconftool-2 did the
trick.

On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 11:00, Stuart Luppescu wrote:
One thing I really liked about Evolution 1.2 (I guess it was a feature
of Gnome 1.4) is the ability to detach the View -> Message Display
menu
and leave it pinned to my desktop, so I could easily view headers or
load images whenever I wanted to. Is there no way to do this anymore
with Evolution 1.4?
--=20
Stuart Luppescu -=3D- s-luppescu .at. uchicago.edu       =20
University of Chicago -=3D- CCSR=20
=1B$B:MJ8$HCRF`H~$NIc=1B(B -=3D-    Kernel 2.4.20-xfs-r3               =20
You're all clear now, kid.  Now blow this thing so=20
 we can all go home.   -- Han Solo=20
=20


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:47:23 +0200
From: Alfons Hoogervorst <alfons proteus demon nl>
To: HvR <hvrietsc myrealbox com>
Cc: guenther <guenther rudersport de>,
Chris Gow <cgow digitalfairway com>, evolution lists ximian com
Subject: Re: [Evolution] IMAP issues with Evolution 1.4: use
offlineimap!!!
Organization: Doubtful

Lo HvR,

On 07-07-03 (Mon) 15:22 -0700 HvR <hvrietsc myrealbox com> (by way of
Alfons Hoogervorst <alfons proteus demon nl>) wrote:

Ouch. I was fixing sylpheed claws' redirection stuff. Apologies...

Bye.

--=20
Ecuaci=F3n algebraico sin soluci=F3n posible,
a menos de poseer profundos conocimientos
en matem=E1tica - Revueltas (Ocho Por Radio)

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:50:43 -0400
From: Bradley M Alexander <storm tux org>
To: Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR movingparts net>
Cc: Bradley Alexander <storm tux org>,
Evolution List <evolution lists ximian com>
Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evo 1.4 -- Killing X?

On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 10:33:10AM -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:

I have discovered that if I have more than one dictionary enabled,
things take a REALLY long time (like tabbing off of the To: text field
takes 2+ seconds), and if I only have one dictionary enabled, things
seem snappier.  I've also noticed that since I've only enabled one
dictionary (I previously had American, British, and Canadian enabled),
my 5+ minutes of shutdown hell have become more like 1+ minutes.

I have never enabled any dictionaries, so whatever comes by default is
what
I'm using.

Also, I've ran strace after strace on evolution shutting down, and have
captured what it's doing when I see X become completely unresponsive.
It doesn't look like evolution is directly doing anything.  The only
weird thing that I see whatsoever is this:

I haven't straced the problem, as yet, I guess I will do that tonight.

before I shut evolution down, top shows XFree86 as using around 2k of
SHR memory.  When X goes into throes and doesn't come out again for
minutes at a time, I see that it now is using around 40Megs of SHR
memory.  I don't know what this means, but it doesn't seem good.  =:/

Anyone?

The problem I have seen manifests itself in one of two ways. Either
the
X process will run away on me (CPU pegs with the prime offender being
XFree86 at something like 99.7%. I can't get the display to come up at
the console and generally have to ssh in and kill X), or when working
at
the console, I will do something and it will cause X to kick me out
and
go back to an xdm login.


Have you tried waiting for it?  Like I noted above, I've seen this and
have had to wait 5+ minutes some times for X to come back.  I'm also
running a P4-1.8 G machine with 1G of RAM (I don't know how that
compares with your machine, but if it's not as robust, the 5+ minutes
may be more like 10+).

Usually, when the hard lockup happens, it's overnight, and since its not
writing to any logs that I have yet found, but I would suspect that its
happening several hours before I find it. The machine is a 1.0GHz Athlon-C
machine with 768MB RAM.

--
--Brad

============================================================================
Bradley M. Alexander                |
gTLD SysAdmin, Security Engineer    |   storm [at] tux.org
Debian/GNU Linux Developer          |   storm [at] debian.org

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Message: 12
Subject: [Evolution] How to purge calendar and tasks records.
From: Ron Hauptfleisch <hops foobox net>
To: Evolution Users <evolution lists ximian com>
Date: 08 Jul 2003 13:14:34 -0400

Is there a way to purge all records from Evolution's calendar which are
older than a certain date?  I was unable to find anything in the FAQ or
help.

Thanks
--
Ron Hauptfleisch <hops foobox net>



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