Re: [Evolution] Evo News?

[Not Zed <notzed ximian com>]

On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 15:36, Tobias Schleinkofer wrote:
> > > > 1.0.x and 1.1.0.99 both have preliminary support for it if you enable it
> > > > in the build process, but neither are complete.
> > >
> > > Yes that would very nice indeed. Although a lot of work would be
> > > required for a news reader than can compete with the current offers such
> > > as Pan.
> >
> > I suppose that's true. It would just be nice for it all to be in one
> > package. But, I understand the resistance against bloating Evo and the
> > common open source model of one program doing one thing and doing that
> > one thing well.
>
> hmm, why then not make a ... let's say ... "evolution express" which
> includes a newsreader and lacks of contacts and calender? *scnr* :)
>
> hmm that resistance is indeed understandable (if there _is_ such a
> resistance). but as everwhere: let the customer decide. and i have seen

there isn't, at least not for that reason.  its a resource issue.  we
dont have the resources to properly implement *and maintain* it. 
personally ... u could probably get it up, and now even posting (due to
some other work recently) in a weekend.  but maintenance and
compatability problems (let alone snot like yenc, multi-part posts ,
etc) would be weeks of work.  the modularity of the code means that (the
rather paltry amount of code required anyway, nntp is simple) it
wouldn't add much bloat.

we've also said multiple times that someone can work on it if they like.

> (here and elsewhere on the web) many requests calling for a newsreader
> implementation in evo. probably mainly beause they want it to be "the
> better outlook". i must admit that i think the same although i use pan.

to be honest, there have been a few requests for a newsreader, but not
that many.  somewhat less than 1 every week.  its just not important
enough to enough people.  nntp services aren't even that common, and
last time i checked (about 6-7 months ago), the ietf nntp working group
semeed pretty unkeen on implementing any of the features required by a
client (like searching and such).  the implication (actually more than
implication, some of the lists read like nntp clients aree some dirty
thing that shouldnt interact with news) is that nntp is a server
protocol, and (possibly) imap should be used to access news groups in
online clients via some gateway - which makes some sense.

id rather make imap work better anyway, theres a world of improvement
possible there.

actually id rather take a holiday somwhere warm and quiet, with no
telephone.

> btw: guess what is one of the main faq's in the (german)
> outlook-newsgroup? :)
>
> "where is the newsreader in outlook?"
>
> tobias
>
>
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