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In the recent bugreport over the change in address bar policy in Epiphany, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314974, Reinout correctly suggested that we move the discussion/debate here to epiphany-list.

As I see this right now, the change from being able to quickly and easily search from the address bar is a massive regression for three groups.  Based on current defaults, new users will have to know to enable the bookmark toolbar in order to see the "search the web" bar.  People who are used to the current behaviour will type in searches to the address bar and get an error page or dialog. Expert users who rely on keyboard shortcuts to save time no longer have the ctrl-L keyboard shortcut to get to a search bar, unless a non-discoverable and undocumented about:config setting is changed from the default.

To me it is extremely clear why this is reverted in order to address the problems for all three user groups I identified,  and I simply don't understand why this change is even being pondered.  But I say this not to be hostile, I say this because I am legitimately curious what the reasons are from people who support this change.  If you support this change, I'd like to know how these three user groups are supposed to be satisfied instead of moving to an alternative browser. 

I can think of a few answers, none of them I find satisfactory.  Perhaps some feel that web searching is overrated and that the two-step procedure of typing in the browser url and then entering in the items directly into the search engine is acceptable.  Perhaps some feel that keyboard shortcuts to get to a web search are not really that important because you don't do searching all that often.  Perhaps some feel that inexperienced computer users who have been using epiphany already will understand somehow why the address bar doesn't search anymore.  That's all I can think of, what am I missing?

It is my opinion that if a major change like this is to be done with the default behaviour of Epiphany, it ought to be done carefully as to minimize the impact to the users.  If the keyboard shortcut bug for smart bookmarks was filled, and a clearly marked search box was placed on the toolbar by default after Peter Harvey's patch is implemented, that would be a different story.  In this case, inexperienced computer users (both old and new to ephy) could see that there is a new way of searching the web in Epiphany, and will be less confused by the change.  Expert users could use a new keyboard shortcut and search the web quickly.  In this hypothetical case, in my opinion the change in default policy would be managed acceptably.

But if I am missing something, my mind is not closed on this.  Can someone in favour of changing the behaviour speak up and explain how these users are expected to manage the change if the present behaviour is continued to the Gnome release.
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Cheers,
-Ryan Thiessen-

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