Re: [Epiphany] Bookmarks

[Marco Pesenti Gritti <marco gnome org>]

I'm going to avoid to reply to your previous mail because it's nothing
more than an heated reaction to something you dislike.

On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 13:22, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 01:54:35AM -0400, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> 
>  > I'm working on epiphany for two reason: I like to try to improve the
>  > usability of web browsers and I want to provide the best possible
>  > browser for GNOME. I guess that explain my interest.
>  Ouch there.  I usually try to avoid commenting on some of Epiphany's
>  design decisions (i.e. yours) mostly because I don't agree with them
>  *and* because I think this is your project and as long as you are the
>  one doing the hard work, you are going to program whatever you want to
>  program.  But when you start arguing that your intention is to give
>  every GNOME user the best experience out there, you are not programming
>  for you anymore, you know?  You are programming for a bunch of users
>  which *do* have different ideas regarding what's usable and what's not.
>  And trying to argue that that's not the case is self-deceiving.

You are quoting (and maybe reading) only a part of what I said.
I was explaining why I was going to work on an hierachical bookmarks
manager only if requested by usability team. I have my ideas on
usability (backed up by discussion with people I trust, readings I do
etc ..) and I have to apply these when designing, how other could I do
it ??
That said I know I have a limited experience and knowledge about
usability and I'd be ready to accept the decisions of the team that is
supposed to know more about GNOME usability.
I'm maintainer and I'm just playing that role here, I'm not an usability
expert, even if often I'm forced to design.

The point anyway isnt really what users believe is more usable, but what
is actually more usable for the majority of the users I target.

>  Separating the bookmark manager from epiphany is not only a good idea
>  from a programming point of view *and* a Unix point of view (this *is*
>  Unix, no matter how hard people try to deny it), but it is also a good
>  idea from a usability point of view.  There is no single solution that
>  can satisfy every user out there.  Not even 90% of them.  Aim for 50%,
>  and you might be on the right track.

Being Unix or not is completely irrelevant ..

I already agreed with the original poster that a separate bookmark
manager would be good from architectural pov. There are enough browsers
out of there if people want something different and I already said that
if someone want to work in a different direction it's much encouraged to
do it.

I dont see the point of this post. If you want a different bookmarks
manager, go hack it. The better it will be, more we will feel motivated
to support it.

Marco