Re: [Epiphany] Bookmarks

[Marco Pesenti Gritti <marco gnome org>]

> 	I agree that hierarchy is not the desired property per se, but
> 	one way (not necessarily the best) of implementing it.  The
> 	properties that one gets from hierarchy is:
> 		1. Clustering: related material is together

In my mind a thing is often related to multiple other things, not to one
alone. So this doesnt work that well for me.

> 		2. Scan a short list and click: find things
> 			quickly

Well it's more like, scan, click, scan, click, scan, click, hrm I
thought I put it here !. Not exactly quick.

> 		3. I would think that a fully automatic system would be
> 		 sufficiently inaccurate that an overide would be
> 		 needed.

Epiphany bookmarks arent really fully automatic ...

> No, I wasn't advocating a choice of 12 different bookmark editors. 
> But an effective bookmark editor is critical for heavy users.  

The problem is the definition of what is effective and what is not ...

> If
> you've got some very experimental ideas to try to move forward,
> great.  But also with experimental ideas, some work and some don't.

Exactly as of existing solutions some work and some dont ;)

More seriously if someone want to go for a more traditional solution,
it's encouraged to do so, we will judge from the results.
Personally I'd be interested to work on it only if there was a
recommendation of the GNOME usability team. That's not the case atm.

I'm working on epiphany for two reason: I like to try to improve the
usability of web browsers and I want to provide the best possible
browser for GNOME. I guess that explain my interest.

> The issue of making it external was for two reasons: one to enable
> faster and wider experimentation and two because I think externalizing
> it would make for a cleaner design.  Look at it this way, bookmarks
> are a directory service while browsers are a viewing system.

I try to look at these issues more from an user model perspective than
from an abstract architecture beautiness. Though even from that
perspective the separation of the two things can be interesting
(epiphany bookmarks can be already opened without a browser window for
example).

Marco