Re: Friends of GNOME campaign

["Karen Sandler" <karen gnome org>]

On Tue, November 13, 2012 6:42 pm, Juanjo Marín wrote:
> > ________________________________
> > De: Oliver Propst <oliver propst gmail com>
> > Para: Tobias Mueller <muelli cryptobitch de>
> > CC: GNOME Marketing List <marketing-list gnome org>
> > Enviado: Domingo 11 de noviembre de 2012 13:15
> > Asunto: Re: Friends of GNOME campaign
> >
> > Hi again.
> >
> > I now got two concrete proposals of how to present a Web
> > campaign.
> >
> > One option is as previous suggested to do a campaign
> > specifically with the aim of shipping a WebKit2 based
> > version of Web. The benefit with this proposal is that
> > much of the Web teams effort is currently at shipping
> > a WebKit2 based version of Web. This would make a
> > clear connection between the campaign and the current
> > roadmap of Web [1]. It would also mean that the money
> > raised would actually to a large degree cover the expanses
> > of implementing the features that is being listed.
> >
> > The campaign would target the following features
> > -Favicons
> > -Remember HTTP and form passwords (complex)
> > -User style sheet support
> > -Unsubmitted modified forms warning
> > -Inline source view
> > -DNS prefetching
> >
> >
> > The other option would be to do a Web campaign that list more
> > general features that are missing from Web including:
> >
> > -WebKit2 support in Web
> > -Queue/Read later section of the Overview
> > -Favorites/Bookmarks section of the Overview
> > -Nicely animated tab switching [2]
> >
> > This would mean to present the campaign in a similar way
> > as the a11y campaign did [3], that is not to promise to
> > implement every feature that is being listed but present a
> > list with (general) missing features in Web, (since it would
> > require a very large amount of money to implement all the
> > features mentioned above). The benefit with this proposal
> > is that it would be clear that the campaign is about improving
> > Web by listing user visible features and could by doing
> > so make people more willing to donate.
> >
> > The basic principle is regardless to make people excited
> > about a native web experience in GNOME.
> >
> > The the financial goal of the campaign would be something
> > around k30$.
> >
> > I have made a document that summarizes the proposal [4]
> >
> > Are this something we want to do, thoughts/feedback are
> > very much welcome.
> >
> > If there is no interest of doing a Web campaign either around
> > WebKit2 or a more general one I think its time for other members
> > in the marketing team to step-up present/be more concrete about
> > their proposals, as it will soon have been a full year since the
> > a11y campaign was launched.

Thanks for suggesting this, and you're quite right to get us moving on a
campaign!

> Hi Oliver,
>
>
> My main concern about your proposal is that I think that a list of
> features is not very consistent for a FoG campaign without a clear
> message. Taking into account that Web is not a very popular application by
> now, most people don't care. Don't get me wrong, I support Web, but a list
> of concrete technical features of an application not very popular by now
> doesn't attract too many people for a donation IMHO.
>
>
> I think that what we need to make a FoG campaign for WebKit2GTK+ is a
> super feature that makes the difference for GNOME, even better if you can
> use in several parts of the desktop. Maybe Tobias Mueller idea of Privacy
> and Security can be this super feature.

I think Juanjo has a point. The a11y campaign was not only successful
financially but also in raising awareness for an important issue. While
this isn't a requirement for a campaign, we should think a way to best
couch whatever we choose to do. Perhaps we could do that for the Web too.

Part of the reason that Privacy/Security came up was because of some of
the ideological discussion we had at GUADEC. So this is a more natural
fit. However, if there's no one to drive that campaign it may be better to
do something else this time.

Whichever campaign we do, we should make a decision quickly so we can
launch before the holiday season.

Should we have a meeting to discuss this? Perhaps next week? I could even
set up a conference line so we can hear each other :)

karen

> Just my two cents,
>
>    -- Juanjo Marin
>
>
>
> > 1. https://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/Roadmap/3.8
> > 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VALT-DMGU&feature=plcp
> > 3.
> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2011-December/msg00030.html
> > 4.
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19V52k7L75MII6lcuxQtp-9uQxvxckdUIWUis4jXVp8k/edit#
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