Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Video capabilities and asterisk (mostly)

[Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>]

Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 11:01 +0000, Matthias Schneider a écrit :
> 
> 
> --- Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com> schrieb am Di, 3.6.2008:
> 
> > Von: Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>
> > Betreff: Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Video capabilities and asterisk (mostly)
> > An: ma30002000 yahoo de
> > CC: ekiga-devel-list gnome org
> > Datum: Dienstag, 3. Juni 2008, 11:16
> > Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 09:14 +0000, Matthias Schneider a
> > écrit :
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>
> > schrieb am Di, 3.6.2008:
> > > 
> > > > Von: Damien Sandras <dsandras seconix com>
> > > > Betreff: Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Video
> > capabilities and asterisk (mostly)
> > > > An: ma30002000 yahoo de
> > > > Datum: Dienstag, 3. Juni 2008, 10:45
> > > > Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 08:44 +0000, Matthias
> > Schneider a
> > > > écrit :
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Damien Sandras
> > <dsandras seconix com>
> > > > schrieb am Di, 3.6.2008:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Von: Damien Sandras
> > <dsandras seconix com>
> > > > > > Betreff: Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Video
> > > > capabilities and asterisk (mostly)
> > > > > > An: ma30002000 yahoo de
> > > > > > Datum: Dienstag, 3. Juni 2008, 9:43
> > > > > > Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 06:49 +0000,
> > Matthias
> > > > Schneider a
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This setting is not RFC-compliant
> > (you can
> > > > consider
> > > > > > asterisk broken on that point). The
> > default for
> > > > this
> > > > > > setting was decided to be the RFC
> > compliant one
> > > > during the
> > > > > > lenghty mail exchange we had on the
> > capabilities
> > > > (you were
> > > > > > on CC). Robert was particularly against
> > making a
> > > > > > non-compliant setting a default
> > setting. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ok, I did not follow that part of the
> > discussion.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And what are the drawbacks of not using
> > that
> > > > option when
> > > > > > compiling and
> > > > > > calling asterisk ?
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > >  _     Damien Sandras
> > > > > 
> > > > > This depends on the codec.
> > > > > H.261: QCIF only, max. 30 fps.
> > > > > H.263+: QCIF only, max. 15 fps.
> > > > > H.264: baseline profile, level 1 only ->
> > about 64
> > > > kbit/s max., only QCIF
> > > > > MPEG4: Simple Profile, LEvel 1, I suppose
> > similar to
> > > > H.264
> > > > > THEROA: dont remember exactly, but I think
> > it is still
> > > > full capability.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > OK, so it will always use those specific
> > settings, whatever
> > > > the
> > > > negociation is. 
> > > > -- 
> > > No, 
> > > the point is that asterisk HAS NOT any kinds of
> > negotiation, thus we fall back to
> > > the lowest possible means of transmission.
> > > 
> > 
> > OK, but if we --enable-default-to-full-capabilities, what
> > happens by
> > comparison to not using that switch ? I mean, from the user
> > point of
> > view...
> > 
> > -- 
> >  _     Damien Sandras
> One example for H.264:
> 
> User selects 4CIF @30 fps and 512 kbit/s as desired resolution and bitrate and calls another enpoint. Depending on the other.s capabilities he/she gets:
> 
> asterisk without "full-capabilities option": -> level 1.0, QCIF @15fps and 64kbit/s
> asterisk with "full-capabilities option": -> level 3.0,  4CIF @25fps, 512kbit/s
> endpoint advertising baseline level 1.2 support: CIF @15fps,  384 kbit/s
> endpoint advertising baseline level 2.0 support: CIF @30fps, 512 kbit/s 

OK, so without the flag, the user will not get what he wants because the
answer from Asterisk does not contain the extended options.
Consequently, default parameters are being used.

So I think Robert's choice is correct. If the user complains that it
does not get what he asked, he should complain to Asterisk developers
and not Ekiga developers.
-- 
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