Re: dogtail How to control "Software Updater" or "pirut" program?

[Zack Cerza <zcerza redhat com>]

David Malcolm wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 02:05 +0800, Charles Tan wrote:
> > I tried to login as a root and pirut did appear in sniff. But the buttons, menus
> > could not be sniffed. I tried gedit, all was good.
> It sounds like the pirut application appeared in the sniff tree view,
> but did the top-level window appear below it?

On F8 I'm seeing the application, but nothing under it. Even using the 
GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge trick that is needed by some Java apps.

> > Is it the related to pyGTK and all the pyGTK based applications could not be
> > sniffed?
> It shouldn't be; I'd expect pyGTK applications to work fine.  What
> happens if you try a minimal pygtk app e.g. the hello world app from the
> pygtk tutorial?

Since sniff can actually see itself, and it is a pygtk app, this can't 
be a pygtk-wide issue. It is pretty confusing, though...

Zack

> > I wanted to use dogtail because of its ability to identify widgets by name or
> > label, not just the x,y coordinations, which could save me a lot time
> > on different
> > screens or hardwares. But if the pyGTK+ programs could not be tested by it,
> > I might need to fix it or find some alternatives.
> >
> > Anyway, thank you for your reply!
> > On Jan 3, 2008 12:22 AM, David Malcolm <dmalcolm redhat com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2007-12-29 at 19:36 +0800, Charles Tan wrote:
> > > > hi, guys,
> > > > I'm a python rookie, and I want to automatically test some GUI
> > > > programs, for example, the gnome Software Updater(or pirut). My idea
> > > > is very simple, that use a program to control the other programs being
> > > > tested.
> > > > And I found dogtail is very good at testing gtk+ based applications.
> > > > But it could not test pirut, which is written in python, because it
> > > > couldn't sniff the buttons and menus inside the pirut.
> > > > I've read some code of the pirut and it used gtk, gtk.glade to
> > > > generate the windows. I don't know why pirut could not sniff the
> > > > widgets in the "pirut" program. Could some kindly guys explain the
> > > > reason? Or tell me an alternative method to automatically test
> > > > "pirut"?
> > > You say that the widgets aren't visible in sniff; to what extent does
> > > the app itself appear in sniff: does the app appear, do the windows?
> > >
> > > I have a vague memory of problems with privileged apps; "pirut" on
> > > Fedora IIRC is launched with a wrapper script that asks for root's
> > > password, and then runs pirut as root, and I think that this can stop
> > > the app appearing in "sniff".
> > >
> > > If it's not appearing in "sniff", you could try launching the executable
> > > directly, rather than the wrapper, or try running the whole thing logged
> > > into a desktop session as root (which is not to be recommended in
> > > general due to security risks).
> > >
> > > It's not going to work with dogtail if it doesn't appear in sniff, so
> > > get this working first.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps, though I could be misremembering this.
> > > Dave
>
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