Re: Dia Discontinued

[Michael Ross <michael e ross gmail com>]

Randy, Rob and David,

Please disregard Andrey's tone. IMO his natural mode is edgy and rude.  I don't get it, so there's no reason you should understand its presence either. And please know, he is not representing anyone but himself.  Same with me, I am just nicer.  Andrey could actually be helpful, and is when it suits him.

There is a whole system and tradition to the development of open source software.  There are people working on it for fun, and to craft the software for their own needs.  You need to be asking substantive questions, and suggesting and making cases for good new ideas.  Don't feel put down when some old hand pops up and shoots them down. Their reasoning will have a more appropriate context. A person new to Dia would simply not be in the know until going through that process.

Dia being open source, all the earlier versions are available for further development (according the GPL license).

Here is a record of current and past progress.

https://github.com/GNOME/dia

I suspect that python will continue to be a mainstay for interacting with Dia.  You will have to ask someone who writes code if there is a planned effort to keep Dia abreast of changes to python.  Because of the relatively small number of people involved you might have to wait a long time, or start coding yourself. 

Keep in mind that the people using Dia are satisfied with it or they would be making changes.  That may create the appearance of neglect, but it is in the nature of open source.  Dia was designed to be very flexible (if idiosyncratic) and to support the use of it by "power users."  If there is a simple work around for an issue or method, they won't make the code more complicated.  You need to offer a solid use case along with any suggestions for improvement. Try to do a good job of suggestions. This is a volunteer effort.

Best to you all,

BentMike

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:14 PM, David Arnold <davida pobox com> wrote:

It was there, although I can see how you might miss it.

Perhaps the message could be reformulated as:

I see Dia has not been updated since 2011-Dec-18, when Version 0.97.2 was released.

Is there any plan to continue development or support on Dia?

d

On 13 Sep 2016, at 05:43, Andrey Repin <anrdaemon yandex ru> wrote:

Greetings, Rob Wortham!

It's a perfectly fair question.

Question? I didn't see any question.

I would also like to know if there are any plans for future versions of Dia?
I am using it for a research project now and have developed some python
extensions. Is there any plan, for example, to support later versions of
python?

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: dia-list [mailto:dia-list-bounces@gnome.org] On Behalf Of Andrey Repin
Sent: 12 September 2016 15:29
To: Randy Schuckman <dia-list gnome org>
Subject: Re: Dia Discontinued

Greetings, Randy Schuckman!

I was just checking to see if there is any plans to continue 
development or support on Dia. I see it has not been updated since

2011-Dec-18, when Version 0.97.2 was released.

And who are you to make such statements?

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With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Monday, September 12, 2016 17:28:14

Sorry for my terrible english...

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Monday, September 12, 2016 22:42:46

Sorry for my terrible english...

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