Re: Dia for windows stability?

[avijit ghosh <avijit ghosh pfizer com>]

Hi Hans, Apologies I think I ended up sounding a lot more critical than I
meant it to sound. By far I find Dia superior to basically every diagramming
program out there, which is why I ended up standardizing on it with regards
to generating data / network diagrams.

Could you send me the link to Dia 0.97-pre2 and/or 0.95? I had basically
just tried whatever I could find. I'd rather use a native version than
install X windows / cygwin / bash prompts on everyones machine that I use.

Its a bit hard to explain but basically I am using it to examine biological
pathways (and (somewhat ironically)) Dia is actually way better than most
Biologically specialized tools (mostly because of its hackability and the
needless speciality of biological tools that actually make it less useful
To do what I want).


Once I have a networked laid out, what I am using (right now using perl) but
you can imagine doing this using the python hooks. I am overlaying
experimental data across the network with each experiment set in layers.

I think the base network I've built is probably on the order of 2500 or so
"dia:objects" (basically 3 custom shapes and a slew of arrows) .. And
With a bit of hackory via perl:twig I map that network to an experiment
where each experiment sits in a layer so a time series of 20 experiments is
20*2500 (the details here are basically I change the color of the object to
match the measureable and change some of the custom attributes so when you
click the thingy it gives you the experimental data..

(And actually at some point will probably see if its possible to add
weblinks to objects as well as that would be awesome)

It works pretty  well honestly! Its a bit slow loading up but once its up
its up.. (well except for the windows version :/) By buggy I mean it just
crashes 

-regards,
-avi



On 3/23/09 11:32 AM, "Hans Breuer" <hans breuer org> wrote:

> At 23.03.2009 14:48, avijit ghosh wrote:
> [...]
> > http://dia-installer.de/index_en.html
> >
> >
> > (both the .94 version and the 0.96 version) seems to be extremely buggy for
> > some reason under Windows XP Pro SP2. Its buggy to the point that its not
> > really usable. I have tried this both natively and under vmware. The same
> > .dia files read/write perfectly fine on the fink/darwinports version of Mac
> > OS X, linux as well as the cygwinports windows version.
> There is a difference between being "extremly buggy" and e.g. producing the
> same output on all platforms. Which one are you complaining about?
>
> Also is it a coincidence you are leaving out 0.95 - which was up until
> recently the one I'm using for diagramming work under windoze?
>
> No matter of your definition of "extremly buggy" you may want to take a at
> Dia 0.97-pre2 - it is intended to be better in both cases ;)
>
> >  I unfortunately don¹t have a MS compiler here but I¹d be willing to help
> > someone do someone do some debugging with regards to sorting out what
> > exactly is going on. Is there a newer version of this that is available?
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/dia-list/2009-February/msg00057.html
>
> > The
> > files I am generating are actually pretty complex (100 megs or so
> > compressed) and it may be tripping up against a bug somewhere..
> I never used a Diagram with more than about thousand objects - and even
> that was for pure testing purpose. Last time I did I've found e.g.
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562574
>
> If your requirment is not a typo, I think you are stressing Dia far above
> its limits (millions of objects?). There are a few algoritms with n^2 or
> even worse which I would expect to make Dia with a lot of objects unuseable
> on Linux, too.
>
> May I ask what use case requires a diagram which never can be read completely?
>
> Hans
>
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