Re: HIG and Escape

On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Alan Horkan wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Lars Clausen wrote:

Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:01:01 -0600
From: Lars Clausen <lrclause cs uiuc edu>
Reply-To: dia-list gnome org
To: dia-list gnome org
Subject: Re: HIG and Escape

On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, James K. Lowden wrote:
Lars, I see the Preferences dialog is much improved but not Gladified.
I'll take another shot at it.  Are we bound to a tab dialog, or did we
decide on a mozilla-like tree-on-the-side treatment, or does anything

I suspect that in time the Preferences will become more complicated and
that a treeview will be necessary, may as well plan ahead.

[ ] Unfortunately i am way behind with Dia since i hosed my machine.


[ ] Hopefully any refactoring could replace the yes no buttons with
[x] check boxes.

I think the whole design needs serious looking at.

I need to look over my notes but there were a few preferencs i really
wanted to remove as i felt they were unnecessary (unfortunately infinite
undo does not seem practical).

I've wondered just how much memory undo steps take.  It could be
interesting to turn the limit off and see what happens.  Emacs, for
instance, has infinite undo, and I have it running for months sometimes
without the undo stack overrunning the system.

We're not bound to a particular style, but we want to keep the coding
part simple, too.  Look in app/preferences.c you'll see an array of
prefs.  They're currently kinda hackishly divided into groups by having
extra dummy entries.  A better style may be to have a string in each
entry that defines the position.  Or a recursive structure.  It'd also
be nice to have the props on a page grouped using GtkFrames.  In other
words, the design is open, but it should be easy to work with.

There was a mail a ways back showing how the entire thing could be fit
in a single window.  That was kinda neat.

I dont remember that, although i do vaguely recally someone sending i
.glade file i never got around to looking at.  A link would be
appreciated, but hopefully i will have time to go searching myself later.

Found the glade file, it's in  However, I
can't read it with neither glade nor glade-2.  James Lowden made the
original, maybe he can post a png?

I would be very worried that fitting everything in one screen would break
for small monitors and not easily allow new items to be added in future.

It actually didn't take any more space than the current prefs.  It was most

As for Glade-ifying, doesn't that require that we depend on libglade?

I believe it would be worth it, simplicity, maintainability and the
performance difference is by all accounts neglidgable.  Abiword is doing
something along these lines (as usual im sketchy on the details), i think
the dependancey is on libgal.

I'm not worried about the performace, I'm worried about the extra
dependency.  Each extra dependency is a hassle for users.  Why does it have
this dependency?


Lars Clausen (| HÃrdgrim of Numenor
"I do not agree with a word that you say, but I   |----------------------------
will defend to the death your right to say it."   | Where are we going, and
    --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire  | what's with the handbasket?

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