Re: loomio

[Martyn Russell <martyn lanedo com>]

On 14/04/13 09:36, אנטולי קרסנר wrote:
> Hello,

Hello,

> I found a tool for collaborative decision making and brainstorming
> called loomio:
>
> https://www.loomio.org/

Interesting.

> It's open for private beta, and I think Gnome, as a community project,
> can really benefit from using it.
>
> Currently the communication between people in the project is done in
> several channels not connected to each other: mailing list, GnomeLive
> wiki and IRC channels. All three of them treat all text as just plain
> text, meaning the computer doesn't provide us tools for specific content
> such as brainstorming, ideas, plans, schedules, etc.
>
> Loomio doesn't provide all of these things, but it's a great tool for a
> community to use for managing ideas and decisions.
>
> What do you think?

- The code is available I read, so I would say it makes sense if we 
could at least share *results* and possibly comments by exporting to 
this? mailing list - for those who don't want to sign up to the tool - 
for transparency, etc.

- I think it would be a good idea for things like new ideas for the next 
GNOME version which Matthias puts out (for example). This tool is about 
improving the ideas that come out of the mill and gaining feedback.

- I think there is often a lot of indirect discussion and nitpicking 
around some of the threads here and a tool like this may improve that issue.

- In the worst case, why not just trial it and see how it goes. We can 
always stick to what we have if it doesn't pick up.

> "If I’d asked people what they wanted, they would have asked for a
> better horse" -- Henry Ford [1]

There is some truth here, but I would not consider ALL ideas and 
development around GNOME to pertain to this argument.

How many times has the community introduced so called "black swan event" 
changes compared to regular changes? What I am saying is, this is 
talking about a minority and extremity of cases here to prove a point 
which is infinitely less relevant.

> Software development is not a democracy.  Decisions are taken by people
> who actually develop the software.  Comments might or might not be
> welcomed depending of several factors (politeness, pertinence,
> reputation, data, etc.).

I don't think that just because one develops software, this tool would 
be useless. I don't think you can tar everyone with the same brush.

--
Regards,
Martyn

Founder and CEO of Lanedo GmbH.