Re: loomio

[Hashem Nasarat <hnasarat gmail com>]

I emailed the company regarding the availability of the source. They don't have the link on the website, but the code is available.

(from rich loomio org)

Loomio is on github: github.com/loomio/loomio

It will be great to hear how you get on with a local instance. I hope you can understand we have really limited resources to support local instances, but our docs are slowly improving to make it easier :)

If it would be more convenient for you we'd be more than happy to set you up with an account on our hosted platform: just fill in this form: loomio.org/request_new_group

I imagine it would be useful for deciding on designs/various issues that come up. I don't know if it would be more useful to have a single group for all of GNOME, or one for each GNOME project that's interested.

Sriram, while I agree many problems would be alleviated with more volunteer time, I've witnessed multiple instances in the past 6 months where decisions were not made democratically, despite a clear lack of consensus. Most recently, there were a great deal of changes to the gnome-shell "All Applications" view very late in the 3.8 schedule, well after code freeze, and despite visible disagreement. Loomio seems to offer an intuitive way of seeing how controversial a change is.

And certainly, GNOME has gotten a lot of flack from the larger Free Software community for controversial changes.

Loomio also seems like it would be a more accessible way for more people to get involved and provide feedback on potential decisions. Free Software means freedom, and having a more open and democratic decision-making process would do much to make this freedom more tangible for more people.

On 04/14/2013 08:18 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

I looked at this and it seems quite interesting.  The one  problem I see is that this would subsume our current mailing list structure.  We would have to bring this in house so that people could see what the decisions are and why.

Overall, I think it's a good way to take conversations out of IRC and making it formal on such a structure.

But it doesn't seem like they have released the code yet.

In any case, what problem are we exactly trying to solve here?  Most of the problems we have is related to our time schedules as volunteers.  This is mostly solved by adding more people to the project.

sri

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 1:36 AM, אנטולי קרסנר <tombackton gmail com> wrote:

Hello,

I found a tool for collaborative decision making and brainstorming
called loomio:

https://www.loomio.org/

It's open for private beta, and I think Gnome, as a community project,
can really benefit from using it.

Currently the communication between people in the project is done in
several channels not connected to each other: mailing list, GnomeLive
wiki and IRC channels. All three of them treat all text as just plain
text, meaning the computer doesn't provide us tools for specific content
such as brainstorming, ideas, plans, schedules, etc.

Loomio doesn't provide all of these things, but it's a great tool for a
community to use for managing ideas and decisions.

What do you think?



Anatoly

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