Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin
- From: Antoine Jacoutot <ajacoutot gnome org>
- To: Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>
- Cc: release-team <release-team gnome org>, "desktop-devel-list gnome org" <desktop-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Requiring systemd for the gnome-settings-daemon power plugin
- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:14:33 +0200
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:00:05AM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I intend on making systemd a hard requirement for the power plugin in
> gnome-settings-daemon. There is a lot of interactions and external
> factors involved in making policy decision about power. This makes the
> power plugin one of the more fragile parts of the system, with things
> like DPMS, screensaver activation, screen locking, brightness control,
> suspend policy, battery information exporting, all handled in the same
> codebase.
>
> Using systemd to request suspends means that:
> - things work out of the box when people do not use GNOME (no need to
> install acpid which then conflicts with GNOME)
> - inhibitions are per-system instead of per-user
> - application get more information about suspending
> - simplify the power plugin's codebase a great deal
>
> The patches I will commit are here:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=680689
>
> Additionally, and separately, support for ConsoleKit usage for
> session-tracking will be removed.
I think at one point the GNOME project will need to step up and explicitely states that GNOME is a Linux-only Desktop.
I am a BSD user; don't get me wrong, if GNOME goes Linux-only then so be it. But the current situation is hard for us because it is unclear where all of this is going.
When systemd was first mentionned on the lists, it was said it wouldn't be a hard requirement. Fair enough, we are "only" talking about the power plugin here but the way it is going systemd will soon be needed for more important features.
I'm just wondering if it is still worth trying to maintain GNOME for !linux platforms (like I do on OpenBSD). Implementing some of what systemd provides is far from trivial for us.
To summarize, it'd be nice to know whether there is still a chance to see GNOME running on BSD in a near future. If everything is going systemd, then the answer is clear, but for now I lack the information.
Thanks.
--
Antoine
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