Re: From here to apps

[David King <amigadave amigadave com>]

On 2011-09-26 14:56, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) <zeeshanak gnome org> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Frederic Peters <fpeters gnome org> wrote:
> > Speaking of Vinagre, it even has "Implement some of the ideas from
> > GNOME desktop sharing/virtualisation design mockups" on its roadmap
> > for 3.4 (see <https://live.gnome.org/Vinagre/RoadMap>).

To clarify, the parts of the Boxes design that I am most interested in 
implementing in Vinagre are the recent connections browser. The current 
behaviour involves a dialog, and makes it awkward to use Avahi to find 
remote desktops on the local network. The Boxes design makes this a lot 
more friendly. Of course, this is only in the roadmap for 3.4, it may 
not get implemented.

>  I assume you are referring to Boxes here[1]. If you look at the
> tentative designs, the UI is significantly different from that of
> vinagre and virt-manager to justify writing of this UI from
> scratch[2]. Apart from the UI, I don't see how much of vinagre code
> could be useful to us since AFAIK most of the functionality is
> provided by spice-gtk  (Marc-Andre?). Moreover, vinagre doesn't do any
> VM management, which is a significant part of Boxes idea. There is a
> conflict with virt-manager in that area (as you noticed) but we are
> working closely with Daniel P. Berrange on the framework side so that
> most (if not all) of this 'conflict' is limited to UI only.

I agree pretty strongly with this. The Vinagre plugins, for example VNC 
and SSH, are directly tied to many aspects of the UI, and therefore 
changing it would mean rewriting most of Vinagre from scratch anyway.  
Also, I do not think that Vinagre will suddenly grow the ability to be a 
generic virtual machine application. It handles the remote desktop 
client use case pretty well, and some of that overlaps with Boxes, which 
I do not see as a problem for the moment.

> --
> Regards,
>
> Zeeshan Ali (Khattak)
> FSF member#5124
>
> [1] https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Boxes
> [2] Since many components of UI are common with Documents, I intend to
> re-use/steal code from there.

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