Re: Metacity, Mutter, GNOME Shell, GNOME-2.28

[Sam Spilsbury <smspillaz gmail com>]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Johannes Schmid <jhs jsschmid de> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> To try and make GNOME Shell integrate with multiple window managers
>> would either greatly constrain the user interface vision or greatly
>> increase the amount of work involved. The power of the GNOME shell
>> approach is that we are working within the desktop scene graph of the
>> window manager/compositor.
>>
>> Using Compiz to create a GNOME desktop using GNOME applications, the
>> GNOME control-center, and so forth will of course remain possible. We
>> have no current plans to create hard dependencies on GNOME Shell within
>> the GNOME desktop (just as there are no hard dependencies on gnome-panel
>> now.)
>
> I think we kind of loose the direction of this discussion here. IMHO,
> users don't care about window managers at all (have you ever asked a
> Windows/Mac user about a window manager?).
>
> My point is that it should be possible to use mutter without gnome-shell
> because there might be use-cases where the gnome-shell model does not
> fit. The other way round is not very interesting because gnome-shell
> tries to create a new user model for the whole desktop which of course
> includes lots of stuff that were historically tied to window management.
>
> If someone wants to implement a window manager compatible with mutter
> that gnome-shell can use - that's ok, but it shouldn't be something
> GNOME Shell development should care about in the first place.

Hi,

It works both ways - if you want to separate shell from mutter than
the shell API must be exposed. If you want to separate mutter from
shell, mutter must have some way to communicate with shell, so the API
must be exposed.

Kind Regards,

Sam


>
> Regards,
> Johannes
>



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Sam Spilsbury