Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

[Jonathon Jongsma <jjongsma gnome org>]

On 01/04/2009 05:10 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:40 -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:33 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote:
> > > > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that
> > > > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's
> > > > crazy to officially want to support git, bzr and hg *at* the same time
> > > > *from* the same repo. It's just asking for trouble.
> > > That isn't true. It is Bzr on server, with Git support. Nothing about
> > > Hg, nothing about doing partly Git, partly Bzr.
> > Then what happens when a new version of git with a new feature,
> > incompatible with the git-serve kludge, is released? Then we're screwed,
> > right? And who gets to pay? We do. We're stuck with an old version of
> > git. Us. The very same people who very clearly said "git", not "bzr".
> >
> > Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a
> > terrible idea?
>
> more importantly: is it *really* so hard to understand that if you want
> a bzr storage for git you should probably propose it upstream instead of
> writing something ad hoc for GNOME alone? if the idea has any merit[0]
> then it should be pushed upstream -- even as an optional repository
> format.
>
> ciao,
>   Emmanuele.
>
> [0] I'm reasonably sure it has some. not as the one proposed to avoid
> pissing off somebody somewhere because we want to be inclusive -- no,
> lemme rephrase that: we are *fucking afraid of committment*. seriously:
> an abstraction over DVCS? what have we become? are we *ever* going make
> *any* decision about *anything*? this is actually a larger issue with
> the GNOME community: we are being afraid.

Exactly.  The idea that our gnome vcs infrastructure would be run by some 
homegrown abstraction layer is rather scary (regardless of how well it's written 
and how talented the developers are).  The fact that some people are acting like 
it's a reasonable solution for a project the size of GNOME is even scarier.

jonner