Re: DVCS
- From: Behdad Esfahbod <behdad behdad org>
- To: Owen Taylor <otaylor redhat com>
- Cc: Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org>, gnome-infrastructure gnome org, desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: DVCS
- Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:56:05 -0500
Owen Taylor wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:45 -0500, Shaun McCance wrote:
>> On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 23:23 +0100, BJörn Lindqvist wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> 2008/10/28 Mikael Hallendal <micke imendio com>:
>>>> I can't really see us coming to a consensus on this topic. Even after a vote
>>>> we would have people continuing to use Bazaar if Git win and vice verse.
>>>> GNOME is by nature a distributed project with a lot of sub modules,
>>>> maintainers and thus preferences.
>>> I think that is doubtful. Most people do not care what VCS GNOME uses.
>>> For those who care, and like DVCS, their opinions are probably
>>> something like this:
>>>
>>> svn 10 points
>>> git 100 +/- 5 points
>>> hg 100 +/- 5 points
>>> bzr 100 +/- 5 points
>>>
>>> That is, it doesn't really matter what DVCS GNOME uses. They are all
>>> great systems, all superior to svn. There _may_ be people who have
>>> their favorite DVCS and would be deeply unhappy if their alternative
>>> didn't win, but I think they are in a very (very) small minority, if
>>> they even exists. I think keeping the GNOME developer environment
>>> coherent is much more important than appeasing to individuals
>>> preferences.
>>>
>>> Just have a vote about it. Voting is fun, encourages participation and
>>> involvement, so make as many people eligible as possible.
>> Why don't we put out a preliminary, non-binding poll to
>> all active account holders? Something like this:
>>
>> Stuff I actively do (check all that apply):
>> [ ] Active development of some set of modules
>> [ ] Cherry-picking bug fixing on lots of modules
>> [ ] Usability work on lots of modules
>> [ ] Accessibility work on lots of modules
>> [ ] Documentation
>> [ ] Translation
>>
>> My take on VCS for Gnome:
>> ( ) Keep svn
>> ( ) Switch to git
>> ( ) Switch to bzr
>> ( ) Switch to hg
>> ( ) Switch to anything distributed
>> ( ) I just don't care
>> ( ) Can I have cvs back please?
>>
>> The first question allows us to look at the numbers
>> for interesting cross-sections of our contributors.
>> Maybe there are other questions that would give us
>> some meaningful breakdowns.
>
> This sounds like a good idea to me. Just poll all people with svn
> access; people who haven't committed in years will largely self-select
> out anyways.
Interesting that you bring it up. We were talking about this at Speck
Hackfest last week and we came to the same conclusion, and I added to my TODO
list to do a poll of all active committers when I get back.
> Might be interesting to ask about level familiarity and/or use of
> different systems as well.
>
> Question for gnome-infrastructure: How do we move forward on it? Do we
> have an easier alternative at hand then just writing low-tech one off
> application?
I was thinking that we can either use the Election Committee's facilities, or
use one of the freely available polling websites.
> - Owen
behdad
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