Re: GNOME 2.23 Schedule

["Felipe Contreras" <felipe contreras gmail com>]

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Peteris Krisjanis <pecisk gmail com> wrote:
> 2008/3/17, Felipe Contreras <felipe contreras gmail com>:
>
>
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Luis Villa <luis tieguy org> wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Felipe Contreras
>  >  >  <felipe contreras gmail com> wrote:
>  >  >  > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Ross Burton <ross burtonini com> wrote:
>  >  >  >  > On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 20:50 +0200, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>  >  >  >  >  > Still the input from the user-base is not considered?
>  >  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >  > How much a simple most-wanted-feature poll could hurt?
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >  Do the poll entries come with patches attached?  If there is a feature
>  >  >  >  >  missing then file a bug and either wait for someone else to code it, pay
>  >  >  >  >  someone to code it, or code it yourself.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I find it difficult to achieve the 10x10 goal without knowing what the
>  >  >  >  users really want.
>  >  >
>  >  >  And I find it difficult to think that online polling indicates what
>  >  >  the users want (especially the 9.9999999% of the x10% who don't
>  >  >  already use GNOME.)
>  >  >
>  >  >  http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/904-why-we-disagree-with-don-norman
>  >
>  >
>  > I looked quickly at the article, and it appears to me that basically
>  >  what is saying is:
>  >  designing for yourself is good
>  >
>  >  While I agree that eating your own dog food is good; I don't think
>  >  that's a reason to stop looking for what your users need.
>  >
>  >  This video would explain why it's good to search for what users need
>  >  much better than I could:
>  >  http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/20
>  >
>  >  What I had in mind was something like Firefox's feature brainstorm[1]
>  >  or Dell's ideastorm[2].
>  >
>  >  Best regards.
>  >
>  >  [1] http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Feature_Brainstorming
>  >  [2] http://www.dellideastorm.com/
>
>  And yes, there are Ubuntu brainstorm too, and two most popular
>  requests last time I checked was make suspend work magically without
>  glitch everywhere and make GNOME capable to manage any network
>  connection type.
>
>  Surprisingly, both of these requests already have software which
>  handle this, they just require help. But first one is at mercy of
>  totally broken ACPI on many, many laptops, and random behavior of
>  binary drivers, and second one just wait for patches and testing for
>  NM and GST network-admin. Ironically, NM introduced GPRS configuration
>  for PPP device, but so far (as I know) I tried fully to test it.

That's a great example, actually there are other interesting wanted features:

6. Speed Up Ubuntu-Gnome boot time <- don't we all want that?
7. Improve dual-screen function <- xrandr is cool but not user-friendly enough
8. Unmount resolution <- lsof and kill help, but so would a GUI
10. Easy mounting of Images like ISO and CUE

I find #10 particularily interesting; are developers really aware that
so many users want that? is bugzilla enough to see such kind of
things? is it really true that there are no resources to implement
that?

There's a bug report for that dating 2003:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103817

Forget about patches, there's a nautilus extension packaged and everything!

I guess those thousands of users can wait, GNOME developers know better.

Best regards.

-- 
Felipe Contreras