Re: 2.18 proposed modules: i18n evaluation

[Don Scorgie <DonScorgie Blueyonder co uk>]

Hi,

What about gnome-main-menu [1]?  Is it still proposed (I may have missed
something)?  What's the i18n teams take on it?

Thanks
Don

[1]
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2006-October/msg00221.html

On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 21:12 +0100, Danilo Šegan wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> This is my evaluation (with GTP spokesperson hat on) of the Gnome
> modules which are proposed for inclusion in 2.18.  It's based only on
> the perceived "localizability" of the app, usually untested, but
> judging by the strings in the PO files, and how comfortable will GTP
> in working with them.
> 
> I didn't evaluate anything else.  If I failed in being objective (no
> doubt I did :), please point that out if you think it will affect
> final 'score'.
> 
> Legend:
>   - No objections: no objections whatsoever to including it
>   - No strong objections: all objections can be easily addressed in
>     2.18 timeframe
>   - Strong objections: it's doubtful objections can be addressed in
>     time for 2.18; for modules listed below, it means they use outside
>     SVN and I doubt they'd be willing to switch over to Gnome CVS
> 
> Short evaluation:
>   No objections: devhelp, NetworkManager
>   No strong objections: Anjuta, Glade3, tracker, seahorse
>   Strong objections: GnomeScan, MonoDevelop
> 
> Read below for details.
> 
> 
> DESKTOP
> 
> = gnomescan =
> 
> Strong objection to including it.
> 
> It seems to support l10n, but it's outside of Gnome CVS.  Strings are
> otherwise fine and there seem not to be any common problems with them.
> The only big problem is that it's not using Gnome CVS.
> 
> My recommendation would be to NOT include it UNLESS it's moved to
> Gnome CVS before the January 15th (so translators would actually have
> the time to work on it aside from string freeze period).  Of course,
> if it's not moved at all, I would strongly oppose to including it in
> Gnome from I18N perspective.
> 
> Only 4 translations, but the module seems small enough (~100
> messages).
> 
> No docs, so no gnome-doc-utils usage concerns.
> 
> 
> = NetworkManager =
> 
> No objections.
> 
> It uses Gnome CVS, is i18n-enabled, and everything seems to work
> fine.  Based on i18n-merits, it IS recommended for inclusion.
> 
> 23 languages with over 95% of a total of 192 strings translated.
> 
> No docs, so no gnome-doc-utils usage concerns.
> 
> 
> = sea-horse =
> 
> No strong objections.
> 
> It uses Gnome CVS, is i18n-enabled, and everything seems to work
> fine.  Based on i18n-merits, it IS recommended for inclusion.
> 
> 6 translations above 50%, total of 745 messages.
> seahorse-0-8 branch is better with 16 translations of >=98%, and a
> total of 527 messages (if translators would merge this into HEAD, it
> would probably be much better).
> 
> Docs are using gnome-doc-utils (this is a good thing :), and they add
> another 303 messages to translation.
> 
> 
> = tracker =
> 
> No strong objections.
> 
> It uses Gnome CVS, there is some i18n support, but it hasn't been
> announced for translation (so no status pages).
> 
> Only 3 translations, but the file is reasonably small (<100 messages).
> 
> Docs seem to be only available as man pages, and we don't support
> localizing them easily at the moment (if they used XML as a source
> format, it would be much easier).
> 
> 
> DEVTOOLS
> 
> All of devhelp, anjuta and glade3 sit in the Gnome CVS.  MonoDevelop
> is outside, so that's a big concern.  DevHelp and Anjuta have been
> long-time Gnome modules, and they have reasonable translation support.
> 
> = Anjuta =
> 
> No strong objections.
> 
> Anjuta POTFILES.in hasn't been updated recently, so that might be a
> concern.  Otherwise, there are ~1700 messages (pretty large module)
> for translation, with 10 languages over 80%.
> 
> Docs seem not to be ported over to gnome-doc-utils, so that's another
> i18n concern.
> 
> = DevHelp =
> 
> No objections.
> 
> Small module (62 messages) with 21 languages over 80%. No docs so no
> concern over gnome-doc-utils usage there.
> 
> = Glade3 =
> 
> No strong objections.
> 
> Uses Gnome CVS, messages seem fine.  739 messages for translation, but
> with only 4 languages over 75%.  I am hoping some of old Glade
> translations can be reused (~1300 msgs, 30 languages with >=80%
> translations).
> 
> It uses gnome-doc-utils for the docs, so that's another plus.
> 
> = MonoDevelop =
> 
> Strong objection.
> 
> It's i18n-enabled, and uses gettext PO files for translation, which is
> a good thing.  There seems to be a placeholder documentation which is
> not using gnome-doc-utils (but it doesn't matter much since it's a
> placeholder, i.e. not real document).
> 
> The big problem is that it's not using Gnome CVS for development,
> which is a serious barrier to GTP work (see gnomescan evaluation
> above).
> 
> POTFILES.in also seems to be out of date (some 200 messages are
> missing, out of 1336 messages total), and there are 12 languages with
> ~1000 messages translated.
> 
> This might still be a bigger problem then expected, since it's a large
> module and former translation teams might use different terminology
> from Gnome translation teams.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Danilo
> _______________________________________________
> desktop-devel-list mailing list
> desktop-devel-list gnome org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list