Re: Notification icons hell (was Re: [gpm] Re: Gnome 2.16 Module Proposal: GNOME Power Manager)

["Vincent Untz" <vuntz gnome org>]

On Mon, April 10, 2006 11:28, Iain * wrote:
> On 4/10/06, Vincent Untz <vuntz gnome org> wrote:
>
>> There are some ways to fix this:
>>
>>  + HIG HIG HIG
>>
>>  + make it possible to dynamically add an applet from a program. I'd
>>    like to add the infrastructure for this during 2.16. Don't know if
>>    I'll have time, but maybe someone is interested in working on
>>    this? ;-)
>>
>>  + try to make the notification area smart and force some icons to hide.
>>    This will be inherently broken.
>
> There are two different ways of looking at the icons
> + Icon is application and any windows created belong to the icon
>     The program doesn't quit when you close windows. Gaim and Tomboy are
>     examples
> + Icon is used for notification and is owned by the program. If the
> program window
>    is closed, the icon never appears again.
>
> I think we need to accept that both of these are going to be used
> whether we like it or not, and handle them both. Currently we only
> "allow" the second way, and bitch about the first, but it is clear
> that applications want the first one, and there are many situations
> that the first is useful.

You missed my second point. If the icon is the application, then we
should provide an easy way for the application to use an applet
instead of the notification area.

And I don't think we need to accept things when we believe they're
wrong :-) I understand applications need something like this. Let's
provide it so the poor notification area can be a notification area
and only a notification area.

Vincent

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