Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver
- From: Shaun McCance <shaunm gnome org>
- To: William Jon McCann <mccann jhu edu>
- Cc: desktop-devel-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Proposal for inclusion in desktop: gnome-screensaver
- Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 12:55:46 -0500
On Wed, 2005-10-26 at 13:03 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote:
> Hi Shaun,
>
> Good comments. I'll reply inline.
>
> Shaun McCance wrote:
> > * Same wiki page:
> >
> > Use the gdm login screen for switching accounts, and tidy it up.
> >
> > I've long held that XP got the interaction right. There's just one
> > login screen. Unlocking your screen is just logging back in again.
> > Switching users is just logging in.
[snip]
> I agree in part. Unfortunately, it gets a bit complicated both
> technically and politically.
[snip]
Yeah, I figured there would be lots of technical hurdles
to get past for this. I just want to throw in my support
for this as a long-term goal. For now, gnome-screensaver
is definitely a big improvement.
> > * As long as we have the model we have now, the user-switching
> > dialog needs love. Right now, it displays a list of all the
> > users. The list is tall enough to accommodate about 1.2 users.
> > I regularly use a machine that has hundreds of users. That's
> > not a fun list to scroll through.
>
> Most of the time if you have a face image showing on the other page then
> you will be able to see more users at a time.
>
> I am also in a system with hundreds of users so I understand. You can
> use gtktreeview type-ahead find to speed up your searches. On my system
> I can find my user name in two keypresses and one mouse click. This is
> much faster than typing my entire username.
Well, I don't know what factors play into all of this. All
I know is that, on my system, I can see one user listed in
the list view. It just needs to be taller.
> > * And on that note, there needs to be a way to disable the
> > face browser entirely. In a lot of settings, sysadmins don't
> > want to show a list of all users to people who might not even
> > have accounts on the machines.
>
> The user switching is off by default. It must be enabled by setting the
> GConf key /apps/gnome-screensaver/user_switch_enabled to TRUE.
Well, but that disables user switching entirely, right?
We need a way to have user switching, but still never show
a user listing. Just a username/password thing to log in
as a new user.
> > * You've hidden quite a lot of options. All well and good.
> > But we can't just hide things that people use, unless we've
> > really provided a better system. Case in point, I actually
> > use the setting for when to lock the screen after it's blanked.
> > Removing that setting annoys me, unless you make it Just Work
> > so I don't need the setting anymore.
>
> I've heard this complaint before. I think there is another possibility
> besides adding such an option.
>
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309142
I'm not proposing any options be added. I'm proposing that
gnome-screensaver just always waits a few seconds before
locking the screen. My proposal is pretty much the same
as comment #2 in that bug report.
--
Shaun
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