Re: Default Theme Progress

["Eugenia Loli-Queru" <eloli hotmail com>]

> >   Though Clearlooks is a very pleasant theme overall, I find that
> > _inset_ menu bar definitely weird, and contrasts with just about any
> > other theme out there.  It gives me a strange and uncomfortable feeling
> > looking at that menu bar :|

> it is a gtkrc option, so we could turn it off for the default theme.

Honestly, that's one of the _best_ features of ClearLooks and it should 
*not* be removed. If you remove this, you just end up with "yet another good 
looking  theme". It's little usability details like this that makes the 
ClearLooks different and draw me into it in the first place.

The inset menu bar, having a different color and border, makes it stand out 
from the main body of a window or the toolbar. On BeOS DR series the menu 
had bold fonts. Mac OS X has the menu on a different level than the rest of 
the app too. The menu has to stand out because otherwise feels like a bunch 
of characters in a row (like a status bar), rather than something clickable 
and usable. The fact that no other used that  in the Unix world so far 
should not be a limiting factor.

Removing the insetting makes the theme look so flat and old and boring that 
it ain't even funny:
http://www.osnews.com/img/9810/cl.png
Please, don't remove the insettiness/color of the menu. Leave it as is.

thx,
Eugenia