rawhide tangent [was Re: Gtk+ 2.8 for GNOME 2.12]

[Luis Villa <luis villa gmail com>]

On 7/18/05, Mark McLoughlin <markmc redhat com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 09:05 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
> > [I'm not opposed to 2.7 going in anymore- what bugs there are seem to
> > be getting fixed very promptly- so this is just for information.]
> >
> > On 7/18/05, Mark McLoughlin <markmc redhat com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 14:01 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Yes, we GNOME 2.12 is planned to use GTK+ 2.8. There's always a slight
> > > > > chance that we would try to revert to 2.6 is something went terribly
> > > > > wrong, but things seem to be OK so far.
> > > >
> > > > It seems, from a vendor point of view (I'm not a vendor), that we need
> > > > to make a real statement, without the "there is a slight chance that
> > > > we'll revert to 2.6". Else, nobody will use GTK+ 2.8.
> > >
> > >         Fedora has had GTK+ 2.7 for nearly a month now. I'm not aware any major
> > > issues with it currently ... Matthias would know better, though.
> >
> > For the record, because fedora/rh basically actively discourage people
> > from using rawhide (though this is less true than it used to be),
> > 'rawhide does $FOO' is not particularly persuasive to the QA team
> 
>         I wasn't addressing any concerns of the QA team - I was addressing the
> concerns of other vendors. Fedora has committed to GTK+ 2.8 in its next
> release - that should be a modicum of comfort for other vendors.
> 
>         (To counter your point, though - Fedora's rawhide testing community
> isn't insignificant)

The number of upstream bugs they file against GNOME is basically
insignificant- in the teens per month, on average. Perhaps that is
something that is not actively encouraged? If there is a significant
community there, I'd like to get them more involved in GNOME bug work.

Luis