Re: Gnome Session Services Framework

[Bill Haneman <Bill Haneman Sun COM>]

Hi Mark:

Thanks for the reply.  Yes, I was thinking about when the ATs are 
started.  On thinking further I realize that my memory of AT startup 
order issues has become fuzzy, so I am probably forgetting some 
things.    Here's what I recall:

1) g-s-d needs to have been started before any applications (including 
the panel, nautilus, etc.); this is probably true generally of gnome and 
so isn't relevant to the Session Services discussion.  Similarly 
bonobo-activation needs to be working on first query.

2) gnome-session's own environment needs to include any 
accessibility-specific env settings such as GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=1 
and GTK_MODULES=gail:atk-bridge (the latter for GTK-only apps that need 
to be accessible).  Again, probably not affected by the Session Services 
proposal.

3) Performance is much better if ATs are started last, because otherwise 
they have to process a stream of events that are mostly just a result of 
'constructing' the desktop services and apps. 

As long as all the activation and bootstrapping stuff is working as it 
should (i.e. no double activation or race conditions), then on 
reflection I believe it should not matter what order the ATs are started 
in, beyond what I wrote above (unless, as I said, I have forgotten 
something important). 

regards

Bill
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> 	I've forgotten what the details is here. Could you fill us in? Are you
> talking about when ATs get started, and if so, when is the ideal time to
> start them and why?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
>
>