Totem-GStreamer in 2.10

[Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller <uraeus linuxrising org>]

Hi Gabor,
Well there is two issues here. First of all of what is going into GNOME
and secondly what GStreamer theoretically can play.

For GNOME integration the player/framework needs to be able to playback
free formats perfectly, which means Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Theora, Ogg Speex,
FLAC and a few more obscure ones. We got support for chained oggs into 
GStreamer CVS today which was the last big hurdle on Ogg support, so
this part is mostly/fully there.

This is what is the criteria for GNOME integration as that is what
people legally can ship/use.

The second issue is support for proprietary formats. As Bastien
mentions GStreamer has gotten much better there recently and we are
working on getting it even better. Goal of course is parity with
Xine/mplayer for this. If you check the release notes of recent gst-
plugins and gst-ffmpeg releases you see that most of the changes in
there are related to improving playback. We are working on new releases
of both these packages now with another very long list of fixes. The
status of these fixes are important for general use, but due to their
legal uncertainty in some parts of the world they will never be part of
GNOME proper unless my atheistic worldview turns out to be wrong and
divine intervention changes the US software patent system (at least with
the current US administration I think that is the only way to change
it).

If you do try out latest GStreamer/plugins/ffmpeg/totem releases and
have files which cause you issues please fill bugreports on them.
Fluendo (the company I am working for) is paying Ronald Bultje to work
on fixing playback issues atm, and only a steady stream of troublesome
files can make sure he actually gets things fixed. As an example of this
Ronald is currently working on fixing our alsa support as it is not as
robust as it should be (or if Ronald is to be believed, alsa is not as
robust as our plugin expects it to be :)

Christian



On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 07:47 +0100, G�r Farkas wrote:
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-11-08 at 00:00 +0100, Reinout van Schouwen wrote:
> > 
> >>>Totem (GStreamer backend)
> >>
> 
> hmm..how to ask in a non offensive manner...
> 
> does the gstreamer backend work fine now?
> 
> i am using gentoo, so i can specify if i want totem with the xine or 
> with the gstreamer backend.
> 
> i was/am a gstreamer fan, so i specified an enable-gstreamer global flag.
> 
> but totem never worked for me.
> there were a lot of avi files for which he did not open them, opened but 
> froze and so on.
> 
> then a month ago, i told my gentoo system, that he should still use 
> gstreamer globally, but let's use xine for totem.
> 
> and behold... i got thumbnails for video files, ALL my avi files are 
> working now.
> totem is now very usable for me...
> 
> (well, for serious movie watching i still use mplayer, because it has 
> better keyboard shortcuts... 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154831 ;), but totem is very 
> useful for example to open remote files via gnome-vfs)
> 
> so, what i am trying to say is:
> is the gstreamer backend now mature enough (or: is it as good as the 
> xine one?)... because if still not, then imho it should wait until it 
> is, before it becomes a part of gnome..
> 
> imho it's better not to ship a video player than to ship a half-working one.
> 
> of course, if it works now fine, i will be happy to have it as a part of 
> gnome ;)
> 
> gabor
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