On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 22:15, Havoc Pennington wrote: > Some set of executables are deemed "part of the OS" I think, rather than > apps with a distinguishable name. You probably don't care too much about > one system monitor vs. another. Who decides on that set? Aren't we aiming for Epiphany and Rhythmbox to be "part of the OS"? What substantially distinguishes Epiphany from "Image Viewer"? > > What if originally Rhythmbox had been called "GNOME Music"? Would it > > then just be "Music" in the menu, simply because of the happenstance of > > its upstream name? > > Thus "Rhythmbox Media Player" is probably right. But you didn't respond to my question: what if Rhythmbox had originally been called "GNOME Music"? (btw, Rhythmbox is a music player, not a media player) What if gucharmap had originally had a "branded" name itself, like "CharacterWorld" or something? Just because the author originally chose a branded name, that means users should see it in the menu? > I think the parens thing is gross, personally. "Web Browser (Mozilla)" > reads badly and feels less friendly compared to "Mozilla Web Browser" I generally agree. But there are technical solutions to this problem. > "Mozilla Web Browser" sounds the nicest. We should find a way to > implement that, not do "Web Browser (Mozilla)" just because the spec > makes that easy to implement. What we should probably do is have 3 keys. Name: a descriptive, branded name of the application. GenericName: The "functional" name for the application. This should probably be standardized across desktops, so that both JuK and Rhythmbox would be "Music Player". FullName: This key is for translators - it only exists if the concatenation of "Name GenericName" doesn't make sense in the specified language. > > Note that under your suggestion Epiphany would have to be "Epiphany Web > > Browser", and not just "Web Browser". > > Yes, that's the correct menu item for Epiphany. > > The HIG has always recommended "Name GenericName" like that, the main > place simply "GenericName" appeared was in Red Hat Linux 8.0, because I > didn't read the HIG and screwed it up. I would personally much prefer to see generic names consistently applied everywhere.
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