Re: Release Team's Almost-Final Modules List

[Aschwin van der Woude <aschwin van der woude creanor com>]

I was wondering if libgda/gnome-db/mercheant is already officially part
of the Gnome-project?
Browsing the gnome website, I don't seem to get a clear answer on this.

If it isn't included, I wonder what the reasons are. It seems like a
mature, at least from a feature point-of-view, package.
Or did the maintainers simply not propose it for inclusion??

Just curious,

-Aschwin

On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 22:44, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> The release team has discussed the modules list at great length over the
> last few weeks (seems like an eternity...) and has compiled this list, which
> hopefully represents a consensus of the input we've received about each of
> the proposed modules.
> 
> This list will become the official new modules list for GNOME 2.3.x on June
> 2, enshrined forever in GEP 11, unless we hear loud wailing and gnashing of
> teeth at any of our judgements before then. That means you have just under a
> week to bring up any doubts or queries you have about this list.
> 
> The comments and rationale have been proofed by the release team, and should
> be considered our 'combined opinion'.
> 
> 
>   In
>   --
> 
>   Note that all of these apps must continue to meet the standards of quality
>   laid out in GEP 10, or they may be removed prior to the final 2.4 release.
>   We would not expect that to happen very often, though. :-)
> 
>     epiphany
>     gcalctool
>     gtksourceview
>     gnome-mag
>     gnome-speech
>     gnomemeeting
>     gnopernicus
>     gok
>     gpdf
>     gucharmap
>     nautilus-cd-burner
>     fontilus (now part of control-center)
>     themus (now part of control-center)
>     zenity
> 
>   
>   Out
>   ---
> 
>     battfink
>     
>       This module was removed from the proposed modules list at the author's
>       request. Further work to enrich the energy saving infrastructure will
>       be done, so it looks like battfink will be proposed again for 2.6.
>     
>     galeon
> 
>       There was a lot of vocal support for Epiphany on the mailing list, but
>       little for Galeon. So, the consensus points to Epiphany. That was due
>       to a number of factors: The Epiphany project goals seem to be better
>       aligned with GNOME's goals, the Galeon developers do not seem to be
>       100% behind GNOME's goals; Epiphany has had regular releases for GNOME
>       2.3.x; the Epiphany hackers are working within the project to define
>       standards and code for toolbar editing and other functionality, etc.
>       While there are a lot of reservations about offending the Galeon
>       hackers, and great disappointment that the two projects have not been
>       able to cooperate, Epiphany does seem to have the consensus, and make
>       the most technical sense. That is not to say that Epiphany is without
>       faults, or that Galeon is not excellent software -> we do need to make
>       a choice at some stage: Right now there is strong support to add a
>       browser to the Desktop release, and strong support for that browser to
>       be Epiphany.
>     
>     gedit-plugins
> 
>       Paolo agreed to shift the most useful plugins into gedit, and remove
>       gedit-plugins from the proposed modules list. It will live on as a
>       separate cool-plugins-for-gedit package.
>     
>     gswitchit, xklavier
> 
>       There was not a lot of discussion or vocal support for these modules,
>       while there were suggestions that it would not work with previous
>       generation X servers, and queries about the user interface (such as
>       integration with control centre, what we really want out of keyboard
>       and language selection, etc). We should continue to watch this module
>       so we can fix these issues in 2.6.
>     
>     seahorse
> 
>       Whilst there was a lot of support for some of seahorse's features in
>       the desktop release, its current state exposes implementation in a way
>       that many users will not immediately grasp. There were suggestions
>       that it could integrate with an address book system, that it could
>       concentrate on the common use cases of encrypting files and checking
>       signatures, etc. On the whole, it's great, but the interface is very
>       GPG-oriented, and it doesn't deeply integrate into GNOME. Hopefully,
>       we'll see it up for proposal again for 2.6.
> 
>   
>   Undecided
>   ---------
> 
>   We hope to have final proposals for these modules in the next few days.
> 
>     gnome-system-tools
> 
>       This module is being discussed on d-d-l at the moment. Left undecided.
>     
>     sound-juicer
> 
>       This module is being discussed on d-d-l at the moment. Left undecided.
>     
>     totem
> 
>       We are leaving Totem as "undecided" for now, pending a 0.6.2 release
>       from the GStreamer team. If that indicates that the GStreamer backend
>       for Totem has a chance of working in the 2.4 timeframe, it will be
>       added to the final modules list. Note that we are not including DVD
>       support in our criteria for "working" - this simplifies distributor
>       issues anyway. It must be made clear that a media player is a very
>       important missing link in the GNOME Desktop release; if Totem with
>       gstreamer is not working for 2.4, then we should carefully consider
>       our options for 2.6, because it would be disappointing to go without a
>       media player in the Desktop release for that long.
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of the maintainers who proposed modules for this release!
> 
> - Jeff
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