I've not had a chance to play with Epi b/c it only seems to build against Moz CVS and I don't really want to play with Moz' CVS. But that toolbar editor (assuming a11y being satisfied) looks kickass. Generally I'm in favor of the GNOME default as the default (isn't that why we call it a default? :-D ) and having the option to change it. In some applications I like the text hints there (e.g. gedit - I can never really tell cut from paste from copy without stopping to think, and the find/replace icons aren't exactly intuitive) but in others I don't (e.g. web browser - now the most intuitive interface since the nipple). I don't want to go to pref overload, but your overloading of toolbars PNG demonstrated what could easily go awry with labels. If you want an example out in the field, check out the Screem web editor; by default it has I think six toolbars on. I'm not really familiar with the codebase, but what I think would be the best way to implement this would perhaps be a context menu on the handle of the toolbar. Right-click (or your favorite kb shortcut) on it would bring up a simple context menu where you can select Icons only, Icons and Text, Text Only, or GNOME Default. It ensures that the developer need not do much to add toolbar configurability, it allows you to select these options toolbar by toolbar, and it puts configuration options on the object itself. Just my $0.02... *dons flame retardant clothing in anticipation of replies*... -jag -- --------------------------------------------------------- Joshua Adam Ginsberg Cellphone: 970.749.8530 Rice University '02 Email: joshg myrealbox com St. Mark's School of Texas '98 -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin ---------------------------------------------------------
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