Re: Shipping Vera with 2.4

[Sander Vesik <sander_traveling yahoo co uk>]

Miguel de Icaza wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> > > > > Take "recent documents" feature of GNOME 2.2 - it completely sucks
> > > > > because of the big-three end user apps Mozilla, OpenOffice, and
> > > > > Evolution, exactly zero of them use the "recent documents" feature.
> > > > > There's a file-format-based spec for recent files now, and I guess
> > > > > people are adding OpenOffice support, but it would have been much
> > > > > easier with a D-BUS style system.
> > > >
> > > > 	I believe you confuse adoption with simplicity. Persuading umpteen
> > > > projects to link to yet another heap of IPC is easier than parsing /
> > > > writing a simple XML file ?
> > >
> > > gnome 2.2 is a quite new piece of software that not all that many ship yet -
> > > it is extremely unsuprising nobody has bothered to offer support for new features
> > > found in it yet.
> >
> > Not the point at all. The point is about what the recent files spec
> > had to contain (how hard it was to design and write as an
> > interoperable feature). As Alex says, you have to handle locking, file
> > change notification, file format, etc.
> >
> > If you had shared IPC, then you could have just specified a message to
> > add a new file, and a broadcast when the list changed, and that's it.
>
>
> I am not sure this would be a solution workable for people logged into
> multiple hosts that happen to share their home directory for example. 
>
> Having a good file locking protocol for your home directory is still a
> good idea, and I believe that a bus-based setup for recent-documents
> will break for most sites that use NFS-like system for home directories.

If you assume the bus is only specific to the desktop machine at hand (and 
not the set of apps the user is running on both local and remote machines) 
will really cause lots of problems and is not what the user would expect. 
We shouldn't have to go through a gconfd-2 style agony over multiple logins 
to the same / different machines.

> Miguel.

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