Re: Shipping Vera with 2.4
- From: Miguel de Icaza <miguel ximian com>
- To: Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>
- Cc: Sander Vesik <sander_traveling yahoo co uk>, Michael Meeks <michael ximian com>, "Gustavo J. A. M. " Carneiro <gjc inescporto pt>, GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: Shipping Vera with 2.4
- Date: 03 Mar 2003 13:27:41 -0500
Hello,
> > > > Take "recent documents" feature of GNOME 2.2 - it completely sucks
> > > > because of the big-three end user apps Mozilla, OpenOffice, and
> > > > Evolution, exactly zero of them use the "recent documents" feature.
> > > > There's a file-format-based spec for recent files now, and I guess
> > > > people are adding OpenOffice support, but it would have been much
> > > > easier with a D-BUS style system.
> > >
> > > I believe you confuse adoption with simplicity. Persuading umpteen
> > > projects to link to yet another heap of IPC is easier than parsing /
> > > writing a simple XML file ?
> > >
> >
> > gnome 2.2 is a quite new piece of software that not all that many ship yet -
> > it is extremely unsuprising nobody has bothered to offer support for new features
> > found in it yet.
> >
>
> Not the point at all. The point is about what the recent files spec
> had to contain (how hard it was to design and write as an
> interoperable feature). As Alex says, you have to handle locking, file
> change notification, file format, etc.
>
> If you had shared IPC, then you could have just specified a message to
> add a new file, and a broadcast when the list changed, and that's it.
I am not sure this would be a solution workable for people logged into
multiple hosts that happen to share their home directory for example.
Having a good file locking protocol for your home directory is still a
good idea, and I believe that a bus-based setup for recent-documents
will break for most sites that use NFS-like system for home directories.
Miguel.
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