Re: galculator should be included in Gnome
- From: Sander Vesik <Sander Vesik sun com>
- To: Anand Kumria <wildfire progsoc uts edu au>
- Cc: release-team gnome org, GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list gnome org>, Simon Floery <simon floery gmx at>, Rich Burridge <rich burridge sun com>
- Subject: Re: galculator should be included in Gnome
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:44:31 +0100 (BST)
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Anand Kumria wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 02:26:29PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > The release team received this suggestion - seems there are quite a few
> > people agreeing that galculator "feels" a lot nicer than gcalctool, though
> > there have also been suggestions that the code is less than desireable.
>
> Kcalc, gcalctool and galculator all abstract away the display from the
> numerical calculations and the code is all pretty similiar. I've got a
> version of kcalc with a GTK front-end on it for instance, not much work
> involved to change the front end. Both gcalctool and galculator use
> glade for display creation.
>
> Feature wise:
>
> galculator
> - uses libm; which will do for 90% of uses but doesn't
> do arbitary precision.
> - provides better visual feedback on what it is doing
>
> gcalctool
> - uses MP (Fortran arbitary precision package), which
> will do for about 95% of people
> <URL: http://web.comlab.ox.ac.uk/oucl/work/richard.brent/pub/pub043.html>
> - has financial mode (but it doesn't compare to a HP 14B)
>
> Both should probably use MPFR instead to do arbitary precision.
> <URL: http://www.loria.fr/projets/mpfr/>
>
Uhh... no, we should not make this a dependncy unless there is a good
reason to. Unless there are good resoans to chnage this part of gcalctool
it should stay as is...
> gcalctool has odd key bindings (for example), hexadecimal can only be
> entered in lowercase on the keyboard. The shifted variants of A, B, C,
> D, E and F do things like turn off hexdecimal and change signs, etc.
> Very unintuitative.
>
> galculator doesn't do scientific / fixed precision mode (because it uses
> libm), nor does it provide 'canned' configurations like gcalctool's
> Basic, Scientific or Financial modes.
>
Which is actually a big minus for gcalculator
> Neither have a statistical mode like Kcalc.
>
> Both of them are strictly "operations sequence mode" rather than
> being able to do "textbook mode" / "formula entry". For example:
>
> 1 + log 10 = 11 on all calculators (kcalc, gcalctool and
> galculator).
>
This is - just a bug (imho). At least the non-basic modes should
understand it.
> On a Casio FX-100V (1992 vintage!) it knows enough to output
> correct answer as 2. There doesn't appear to be a image of a
> 100V, but the closest model is probably a fx4000p.
>
> <URL: http://www.voidware.com/calcs/casio.htm>
> <URL: http://www.rskey.org/fx4000p.htm>
>
> Casio FX's are probably good candidate calculators to test against since
> they are 'approved' calculator in both Australia and UK secondary schools
> and universities.
>
> Regards,
> Anand
>
Sander
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