Re: metacity, vte

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On Sun, Sep 22, 2002 at 01:57:56PM -0700, Adrian Custer wrote:
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> 
> The question of "sorting out metacity" seems to involve several issues
> none of which are spelled out in this post. I am also at a loss as to
> who the "people" are whose opinions are relevant. 
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> 
> Breaking apart the discussion I get two questions:
> 
> 1) Does GNOME intend for the near future to support a single window
> manager or allow the flexibility of several?
> 
> 2) Does GNOME want to change from sawfish as the default to metacity?
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> Addressing 1) the issues seem to be:
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> a single window manager:
> --is easy for new users
> --does not require defining a standard of integration, a standard list
> of features or any other standard for GNOME compliance
> --concentrates developer attention
> 
> multiple window managers:
> --allows user choice
> --allows users to use a window manager which either "just works" for
> them or one with the features they feel they need to be productive
> --requires a GNOME wide definition of features which window managers
> must implement to be GNOME compatible.
> 
> (The issue of how users get to a new window manager, I leave aside since
> this seems to be a minor piece compared to publishing a definition of
> GNOME compliance. Note that this standard would impose on the default
> window manager a set of minimum requirements which may or may not be
> supported by the module maintainer.)

For most part we need  that standard anyway to interoperate with KDE and 
possibly other free desktops, that is it's mostly configurateion that 
need to be consistent. I think the goal  that gnome apps work in aKDE 
enviroenment will be relevant for a long time to come. (Choice is good)

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> Addressing 2) the issues seem to be:
> 
> for using metacity:
> --many developers support it
> --major distributions have decided to ship it as a default
> --it ties into the menus in a specific way
> --it has active development which sawfish seems to be lacking
> 
> for keeping sawfish:
> --many users like one or several features which metacity will not
> support. 
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> 
> I am sure there are more issues and leave those to others to add in.
> Also, I refrain from giving my opinion since I don't think that the
> opinion of users is considered useful by those who will ultimately
> decide on the issue.
> 
> -adrian
> 
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