Re: Default WM theme settings
- From: Daniel Veillard <veillard redhat com>
- To: Matt Tucker <tuck whistlingfish net>
- Cc: John Kodis <kodis jagunet com>, sawfish lists eazel com, GNOME Desktop Hackers <desktop-devel-list gnome org>, Seth Nickell <snickell stanford edu>
- Subject: Re: Default WM theme settings
- Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 10:44:38 -0500
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:36:20PM -0800, Matt Tucker wrote:
> The homepage is nothing more than a directory listing of tar.gz/rpm's.
> Based on that description, I completely fail to understand why anyone
> would think this thing might be replacing Sawfish at any point, much
> less in the near future. Give up a cleanly written, elegant, easily
> configurable piece of software for a hack someone threw together and
> doesn't want to support? Doesn't make any sense.
Some people are gonna hate me, but Sawfish is the only piece of
Gnome 1.x which have given me troubles as a user (I'm a rather conservative
user). Especially when trying to upgrade it it nearly always failed
and last time it took me 2 hours of strace'ing to try to guess where
that failed. Removing/reloading the full set of rpm wasn't sufficient.
The dependancy on the rep* packages without clear ABI level might have
been part of it, directory rights on rep library subtrees have been
another. Basically the window manager is a core piece of infrastructure,
it MUST not fail, and having it working properly dependant on a lot of
files scattered in various directories, apparently without a clear
ABI is not what we should rely as a default WM. Sorry in my exprience
it just breaks too easilly.
Note, this is mostly unrelated to the actual code, and a mechanism
like the Emacs one where the precompiled data are loaded into a binary
image (while being a PITA and an ugly hack for people packaging it)
seems a far better solution from a user's perspective.
Daniel
P.S.: I still don't know what broke in my last upgrade, nor why
reinstalling the package for the nth time finally worked while
all previous attempts to fix it before failed.
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