Re: [Usability] Re: Decision: instant apply window buttons

[Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>]

Gregory Merchan <merchan baton phys lsu edu> writes: 
> We don't need a new type and there's no UTILITY type at
> http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/wm-spec/x186.html
>

It's in the CVS version. See wm-spec-list archives.

> This means a normal title and maybe borders and that Maximize/Restore and
> Resize are not included. This leaves Close, Menu, Shade/Unshade, Minimize,
> Stick/Unstick, and Move as the possible window operations.
>

I don't think relying on !resizable is right here. Take for example a
window containing a list. Windows containing scrollable elements like
lists should almost certainly be resizable so you can increase the
scroll area. Preferences windows can certainly contain lists.
 
>   http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnwue/html/09_06.GIF

OK, that is type UTILITY - in MacOS terminology - and has the funky
mini-titlebar and lacks the Menu control in top-left.

There is no way prefs windows should have the funky mini-titlebar or
lack the Menu control.  They are not persistent like toolboxes. You
open them, you change one pref normally, you close them again. That is
a transient dialog, not a palette/toolbox.

Havoc