Minutes for release-team - 2002-12-11
- From: murrayc t-online de (Murray Cumming)
- To: gnome-release-team <release-team gnome org>
- Cc: Gnome Hackers <gnome-hackers gnome org>, "desktop-devel-list gnome org" <desktop-devel-list gnome org>
- Subject: Minutes for release-team - 2002-12-11
- Date: 16 Dec 2002 08:42:42 +0100
Here are the minutes for last week's release-team meeting.
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Minutes for Gnome 2 release team meeting 2002-12-11
Murray Cumming Luis Villa
Jeff Waugh (chairing)
Karl Gaffney (10 mins late)
DONE: Luis needs to post the RSN (Real Soon Now) bug status report.
DONE: Bring Mark McLoughlin into the release-team.
PENDING: Jeff to update Modules list on developer.gnome.org's dotplan.
=> Jeff plans to do this real soon.
PENDING: Jeff to install analog or webalyser on the box hosting
so we know what people are looking for/at/over.
=> No change: gnome-sysadmin is snowed under. Jeff will do it.
PENDING: Jeff to create check-list of "things to do before major
release" and maintain it so it's ready for 2.2.0.
=> No change: Jeff to post his list to the release-team list and then
we can whack it into CVS or somewhere where everyone can see it.
PENDING: Jeff to ensure clear directions for Xft2 are in GNOME 2.1.x
=> Jeff plans to do this real soon.
NEW: Send reminder that the UI Freeze happened a few days ago.
NEW: Jeff to try changing install-module to get/enforce entries in
Decisions and discussion:
* UI freeze
There has been some UI-freeze breakage. For instance, there is a
new gstreamer configuration application in gnome-media. That
particular thing should be UI-reviewed ASAP (Glynn thinks that can
be done quickly)
We should re-announce the UI freeze because people don't seem to
have got the message yet.
* Changes to release team:
Mark McLoughlin has joined the release-team, but can not be at
telephone meetings until April, due to his New Zealand time zone.
But that will be useful for API-change approval requests.
* Whether to ship libgnomeprint 2.0 as well as 2.2 in GNOME 2.2
libgnomeprint 2.0 is a nasty mess that we don't want anybody to
use, but Gnumeric uses it now because it is API-stable. Gnumeric
expects to use libgnomeprint 2.2 instead if it becomes stable when
expected, with the GNOME 2.2. release. libgnomeprint 2.2 seems to
be much cleaner and maintainable than 2.0. Porting is very easy.
On the one hand, it would be nice not to force people to upgrade,
even though libgnomeprint, as part of Desktop rather than Platform,
doesn't need to make any such guarranttee. But on the other hand,
that's why it wasn't in Desktop anyway.
So we decided to supply only the 2.2 version in GNOME 2.2. No
major app will be using it in the near future anyway.
Note that evolution 1.2 uses libgnomeprint 1.4, not 2.0.
* Improving the release announcements.
The Mono announcements are full of stuff, but that's probably
because they are in an early development stage.
People don't use their NEWS files (which should contain short
descriptions of user-visible changes) - they just upload the
tarballs. So it's hard for us to describe what has changed.
Someone suggested that the ftp.gnome.org install-module script,
which puts each new tarball in the appropriate place, could extract
information from the NEWS file and complain if there is nothing
there. This might require some standard format for NEWS. Jeff will
play with that idea.
* Meetings over the Christmas holidays.
The wedndesday meetins fall on th 25th and 1st, Let's try. Fred
can't any from now until after 1st. Let's try, though the 25th
There will be a call for tarballs for Monday, with a release on
* Bugs status
(Luis isn't here)
Some people are worried about the theme control center. Glynn has
non-specific Terminal crashes, maybe an old version. Apparently the
vte terminal has problems with VI - mentioned in bugzilla.
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