Re: bonobo activation question

[Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>]

On Tue, 2002-08-06 at 18:08, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> On Tue, 2002-08-06 at 12:57, Bill Haneman wrote:
> > I am a little worried by references to your "expunging" remote
> > activation.
> 
> 	You'd be more worried by the code that did it if you read it though.

Hmm, fair enough ;-)

> The feature has always been dead for Gnome 2.0, it's a Gnome 2.2 feature
> if you want it.
> 
> >   We actually do rely on the ability to do this
> > ("theoretically") via bonobo-activation, in our roadmap for
> > accessibility support.
> 
> 	Fine; whatever - you can make it work then; however - the code that
> currently exists to try and do it, is buggy, leaks, creates nasty race
> conditions, dramaticaly complicates things, I've never seen it work etc.
> etc. ;-)
> 
> 	So - I'm working to expunge that evil cruft from my life.

OK, well I did say "theoretically".  It's the activation part that's
tricky, agreed, not the use of IORs once gotten.

> > I realize that we don't have a readymade way of doing this ATM, but I do
> > expect that this feature will be laid over the existing b-a-s framework,
> > perhaps via extensions to the bonobo-activation query syntax.
> 
> 	Great - I'm most happy with that; no problem, it's the right place to
> do it in bonobo-activation; but the current implementation is not the
> right code base to build on to get it done IMO, that's why I'm pruning
> it back, so we have a simple codebase, that is workable so we can move
> forwards [ to more complex scenarios ] easily.

I just wanted to make sure you thought extension of b-a syntax made
sense, presumably in the query string.

> > Having sold the "remote accessibility" bill of goods I'd like to know of
> > any developments or plans that might affect (adversely or positively)
> > our ability to deliver it ;-)
> 
> 	Sure - well CORBA will do it for you trivially; remote activation is
> not easy currently - you'd need some custom setup to do that; at some
> stage I hope it will be possible again. Until then I'll continue trying
> to make b-a-s as clean, lean and maintainable as possible [ with a long
> way to go still ].

It would be nice to get a proposal together for the remote activation
API, and we could worry about implementation later once we thought the
main stumbling points had been identified and addressed.

regards,

Bill

> 	Regards,
> 
> 		Michael.
> 
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