Re: Preferences [Was: a whole lot of other things, too]

[Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>]

> Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <rms 1407 org> writes: 
> > This sort of stuff should NEVER be done automatically by default.
> 
> Think about it for a minute. How often do you install a machine, plug
> it into the ethernet jack, but NOT immediately put it on your network?

I think I do this all the time; I use an Ascend box which is always live
but isn't always connected to the WAN (because that costs $$).  So a lot
of the time I am connected physically but not net-wise.  Sometimes it's
better to turn the network off when I'm doing this, to keep from having
to endure long timeouts.

> I can't think of any time I've done that. If you connect it to the
> network physically you intend to have it on the network.

(Apologies for not having read this thread in detail, perhaps this isn't
relevant to the discussion)

regards,

-Bill

> I'd have a good firewall enabled by default, though. And this is
> something you'd want to do in a desktop setup, not for servers, of
> course.
>  
> > How about just having a gui in "Networking" to setup the lan connection?
> > It would have to change global settings, so it must be allowed by PAM or
> > something, but if you want the user to have that option, that's the way
> > to do it, not magically assume something, specially in such an hostile
> > environment such as the net is.
> 
> Magic assumptions can make things more secure, not less, for the
> average case. e.g. auto-firewalling.
> 
> Havoc
> 
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