Re: IMAP, Google, and Yahoo Drivers

["Enrico Minack" <minack l3s de>]

Hi all,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Shaw" <joeshaw novell com>
To: <mada gautier org>
Cc: "Dashboard Hackers" <dashboard-hackers gnome org>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: IMAP, Google, and Yahoo Drivers


> The problem isn't the code so much as the terms of service for the
> Google key.  I don't remember the exact issues, but basically we can't
> ship a key with Beagle and so it's up to people to get their own keys
> for their own personal use.  Very annoying.
We also dealt with the Google API and its license before and we think, even 
if the user provides its own key, Beagle is not allowed to use the API. The 
license [http://www.google.com/apis/api_terms.html] says:
"... And you may not use the search results provided by the Google SOAP 
Search API service with an existing product or service that competes with 
products or services offered by Google. ..."

Which, I guess, holds for Beagle since Google provides its own desktop 
search application :-(

Regards,
Enrico M.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Shaw" <joeshaw novell com>
To: <mada gautier org>
Cc: "Dashboard Hackers" <dashboard-hackers gnome org>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: IMAP, Google, and Yahoo Drivers


> The problem isn't the code so much as the terms of service for the
> Google key.  I don't remember the exact issues, but basically we can't
> ship a key with Beagle and so it's up to people to get their own keys
> for their own personal use.  Very annoying.
>
> > I am not sure if there is an existing way to get the google driver
> > to work but I wrote a new tile based off of tomboy and after a few tweaks
> > and issues now have it coming up in best.
>
> I presume you mean beagle-search instead of best?  If so, you're right
> in writing a new tile; we never created a "web search" tile when we
> moved from best to beagle-search.
>
> > On another note I looked into porting some generic IMAP code from python
> > into beagle.  As Joe S. thought I ran into a problem with .net libraries
> > superseded python libraries.  I will probably have to rewrite the code in
> > C#.
>
> Right.  Although it might work, IronPython is a fairly new
> implementation and I'm not willing to add a dependency on the python
> class libraries for Beagle.
>
> > Then to answer the next question of (paraphrasing), "How will the
> > information from IMAP be displayed (generic URI and what not)?"  Is there
> > a generic text viewer?  I see that there are some viewers for Contacts 
> > and
> > such (used this yet). I think a generic text viewer would 1.) solve the
> > issue of displaying information to a user that does not have an available
> > local viewer (remote mail files).
>
> If you're looking for a generic text viewer, you could just say that the
> MIME type is text/plain and OpenFromMime() will feed it to gedit or
> whatever.
>
> Displaying emails as text would be a pretty miserable user experience
> though, in my opinion, especially if the mail contains MIME parts.  What
> you'd probably want is to write a specialized mail viewer.  We suggested
> that someone take on this task over a year ago now:
>
>
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/dashboard-hackers/2005-May/msg00065.html
>
> > 2.) Provide a mechanism for fast prototyping of new and interesting
> > drivers (I have lots of database information that needs indexing).  I
> > would think that a simple viewer of Key:Value fields and a main text
> > body would prove to be very useful.
>
> beagle-extract-content displays all the properties and text extracted
> from a file when passed to the filters, and beagle-query --verbose does
> a search against indexes and returns all the stored information.  These
> two tools should provide you with what you need.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
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