[gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution IRC team meeting for June 20, 2012.
- From: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes src gnome org>
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- Subject: [gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution IRC team meeting for June 20, 2012.
- Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:30:39 +0000 (UTC)
commit 4250fad50c76ec7dd54451ab9750b854162fb46a
Author: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
Date: Wed Jun 20 14:30:03 2012 -0400
Add Evolution IRC team meeting for June 20, 2012.
projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml | 13 +++-
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2012-06-20.shtml | 104 ++++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2012-06-20.txt | 89 +++++++++++++++++
projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml | 16 +++-
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These are the logs of recent meetings.
</p>
+<p>
+ <b>Update:</b> It was decided in the
+ <a href="meeting-logs/2012-06-20.shtml">June 20, 2012</a> meeting to
+ end regularly scheduled team meetings on account of the Evolution team
+ having so few developers left. The remaining developers will use the
+ <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers";>
+ evolution-hackers mailing list</a> as the primary forum for technical
+ discussions, status updates and upcoming event reminders; which has
+ already been the case in practice for some time.
+</p>
+
<!-- Remember to update meetings.shtml as well. -->
<ul>
+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-06-20.shtml">2012-06-20</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-05-16.shtml">2012-05-16</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-04-18.shtml">2012-04-18</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-03-21.shtml">2012-03-21</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-02-15.shtml">2012-02-15</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-01-18.shtml">2012-01-18</a></li>
- <li><a href="meeting-logs/2011-12-21.shtml">2011-12-21</a></li>
</ul>
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+<!--#set var="title" value="IRC Team Meeting - June 20, 2012"-->
+<!--#set var="section" value="developer"-->
+<!--#include virtual="../head.shtml"-->
+
+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - June 20, 2012</h1>
+<div class="irclog">
+<p id="tJun 20 11:36:39" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 11:36:39" class="time">Jun 20 11:36</a> *mbarnes wonders if this is everyone :(</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:38:29" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:38:29" class="time">Jun 20 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I guess I'll start...</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:38:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:38:54" class="time">Jun 20 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">evolution-3.4.3 and co was released this past Monday</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:39:21" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:39:21" class="time">Jun 20 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">we're off the GNOME release schedule now for the gnome-3-4 branch since it only goes to 3.4.2</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:39:49" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:39:49" class="time">Jun 20 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">we're still pretty early in the current release cycle, so I wouldn't rule out a 3.4.4 later on if needed</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:40:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:40:09" class="time">Jun 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">evolution-3.5.3 and co will be released on Monday</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:40:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:40:43" class="time">Jun 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">evolution-exchange, evolution-groupwise, and evolution-kolab are still unbuildable due to the account-mgmt merge</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:40:59" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:40:59" class="time">Jun 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">evolution-ews mostly working again, and mcrha is working on evolution-mapi</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:41:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:41:11" class="time">Jun 20 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I'll be hitting evolution-kolab next</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:41:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:41:22" class="time">Jun 20 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">the rest of them will get fixed in due time, I guess</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:41:45" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:41:45" class="time">Jun 20 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">moving on to discussion topics...</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:00" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">the only topic I had for today was about the meeting itself</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:08" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:08" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I'm following the traditional IRC meeting format for today,</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:23" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">but since we're suddently a much smaller crew now,</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:30" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">(as evidenced by the channel members...)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:43" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I'm open to revising the meeting format if this is too formal,</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:42:55" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:42:55" class="time">Jun 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">or discussing whether we still need these monthly meetings at all</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:43:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:43:04" class="time">Jun 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">the goals for these meetings in my mind are:</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:43:15" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:43:15" class="time">Jun 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">keep everyone informed about upcoming events</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:43:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:43:27" class="time">Jun 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">foster communication between all the developers</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:43:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:43:40" class="time">Jun 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">and as needed, discuss important team-wide issues (like this)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:43:51" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:43:51" class="time">Jun 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">and do so publicly and in a recorded format</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:44:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:44:03" class="time">Jun 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">as long as those goals are met, I don't care so much about the means</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:44:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:44:12" class="time">Jun 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">so... what do you guys think?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:44:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:44:40" class="time">Jun 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">like the evo-hackers comply with most of the goals, and addresses more people here?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:45:45" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:45:45" class="time">Jun 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">...than here?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:45:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:45:53" class="time">Jun 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">you're saying the evo-hackers list is pretty much sufficient?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:46:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:46:09" class="time">Jun 20 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><dvratil></span> <span class="text">I guess IRC meeting can be summoned when needed, but if _this_ is all what's left of Evo team, EH is enough I guess (and easier to search in)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:46:57" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:46:57" class="time">Jun 20 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yes, evo-hackers sufficient from my point of view</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:47:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:47:02" class="time">Jun 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">dwmw2_gone, xtian: any opinion?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:47:10" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 11:47:10" class="time">Jun 20 11:47</a> *mbarnes kinda wanted to hear from everyone</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:48:51" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:48:51" class="time">Jun 20 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">personally, I'm inclined to agree</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:49:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:49:13" class="time">Jun 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">the IRC channel and mailing list seems sufficient for this few developers</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:49:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:49:24" class="time">Jun 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">as long as we all post regularly to the mailing list</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:49:37" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:49:37" class="time">Jun 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: (sorry, catching up, processing...)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:49:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:49:41" class="time">Jun 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">regularly?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:50:45" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:50:45" class="time">Jun 20 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">well, I'm mostly concerned with keeping track of what everyone's working on</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:51:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:51:04" class="time">Jun 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">if the mailing list becomes a ghost town or someone goes silent for months, that's a problem</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:51:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:51:41" class="time">Jun 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">kick him/her in (not from) the irc channel then</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:51:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:51:54" class="time">Jun 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">for example, I have no idea if srag is still working on his email-factory branch because he never posts an update</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:53:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:53:40" class="time">Jun 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">imho, in #evolution-meet, there's not much time to tell about individual updates</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:53:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:53:54" class="time">Jun 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">I see. For me it's usually just bug activity, which doesn't make much sense to send updates, especially as bugzilla makes it for me</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:54:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:54:27" class="time">Jun 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">xtian: yeah, good point</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:54:50" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:54:50" class="time">Jun 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">individual updates to the mailing list work better for me too</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:54:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:54:58" class="time">Jun 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I'm too wordy for real-time chat :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:55:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:55:00" class="time">Jun 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">irc chan is also not threaded, easy to lose track of who said what and who replied</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:55:29" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:55:29" class="time">Jun 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><dvratil></span> <span class="text">+1 for updates on mailing lists :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:55:31" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:55:31" class="time">Jun 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">s/chan/channel/</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:55:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:55:34" class="time">Jun 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">I suppose :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:55:57" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 11:55:57" class="time">Jun 20 11:55</a> *xtian trying to cut short his overly lengthy e-h list postings, anyone noticed? ;-)</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:56:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:56:06" class="time">Jun 20 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: true</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:56:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:56:17" class="time">Jun 20 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:57:39" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:57:39" class="time">Jun 20 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">okay... consensus seems to be mailing list is sufficient for individual updates and discussion topics</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:58:01" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:58:01" class="time">Jun 20 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: do you have an idea as to what "regular updates" could mean?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:58:07" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 11:58:07" class="time">Jun 20 11:58</a> *mcrha has working ema mail/book/cal, configuration lefts</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:59:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:59:11" class="time">Jun 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">as I said above, my status updates are more than boring, just about bugs I was working on</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:59:25" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:59:25" class="time">Jun 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">xtian: I don't want to get too formal about it</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:59:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:59:35" class="time">Jun 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: fine</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 11:59:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 11:59:41" class="time">Jun 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">treat the mailing list as a technical blog with an interested audience :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:00:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:00:09" class="time">Jun 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><dvratil></span> <span class="text">mcrha, you can pipe git log --author...to E-H once a week :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:00:21" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:00:21" class="time">Jun 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">haha</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:00:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:00:32" class="time">Jun 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yeah, and they will begin to like me ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:01:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:01:00" class="time">Jun 20 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I guess what I mean is as long as I'm not asking "hey whatever happened to so-and-so?", then I'm happy</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:01:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:01:06" class="time">Jun 20 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: which would reduce #evolution-meet to something like "haven't heard from srag in a while, anyone knowing whether he's still working on email-factory?"</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:01:24" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 12:01:24" class="time">Jun 20 12:01</a> *dvratil has quit (Konversation terminated!)</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:01:42" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:01:42" class="time">Jun 20 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">pretty much :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:02:00" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 12:02:00" class="time">Jun 20 12:02</a> *dvratil (~Dan ip4-95-82-187-209 cust nbox cz) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:02:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:02:03" class="time">Jun 20 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">actually I'll email him and see what his status is</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:03:23" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 12:03:23" class="time">Jun 20 12:03</a> *mcrha on a feeding duty</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:03:50" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:03:50" class="time">Jun 20 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">I guess this is all for today, right?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:04:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:04:24" class="time">Jun 20 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">yeah... I was gonna do one last round of status updates but seems no point</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:04:31" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 12:04:31" class="time">Jun 20 12:04</a> *xtian has already sent his status update to e-h. :)</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:05:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:05:02" class="time">Jun 20 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">dvratil: have you started converting the composer at all or still fixing webkit regressions?</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:05:21" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:05:21" class="time">Jun 20 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">and for me mbarnes did the main status update, I'm on ema porting to 3.5.3, configuration parts left.</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:05:42" class="action"><a href="#tJun 20 12:05:42" class="time">Jun 20 12:05</a> *mcrha is now known as mcrha|afk</p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:05:52" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:05:52" class="time">Jun 20 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><dvratil></span> <span class="text">well since you are OK with shipping Evo 3.6 with GtkHTML composer, I decided to postpone it a little bit and finish the cool features in the new formatter first</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:06:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:06:11" class="time">Jun 20 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">oh okay, cool... makes sense</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:06:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:06:35" class="time">Jun 20 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><dvratil></span> <span class="text">there are still a few bugs from the webkit port, but nothing major, mostly fixed by the new formatter</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:06:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:06:43" class="time">Jun 20 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">as for my own status: just porting modules to the account-mgmt API and generally just fixing bugs for awhile</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:06:55" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:06:55" class="time">Jun 20 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">sounds silly, but I missed just fixing bugs</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:07:15" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:07:15" class="time">Jun 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">cool, sounds like we're in good shape with webkit</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:07:26" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:07:26" class="time">Jun 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">it's been working great for me... nice job! :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:07:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:07:34" class="time">Jun 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I guess that wraps it up</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:07:38" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:07:38" class="time">Jun 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">thanks everyone</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:07:39" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:07:39" class="time">Jun 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><dvratil></span> <span class="text">yup, there's a regression in 1.9.x but I reported it, hopefully they fix it soon</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:09:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:09:44" class="time">Jun 20 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><xtian></span> <span class="text">thanks mbarnes for guiding us through</span></p>
+<p id="tJun 20 12:10:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJun 20 12:10:24" class="time">Jun 20 12:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">just for the log: decision is to hold IRC meetings as needed, and mostly use the evolution-hackers mailing list from here out</span></p>
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diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2012-06-20.txt b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2012-06-20.txt
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+Jun 20 11:36:39 * mbarnes wonders if this is everyone :(
+Jun 20 11:38:29 <mbarnes> I guess I'll start...
+Jun 20 11:38:54 <mbarnes> evolution-3.4.3 and co was released this past Monday
+Jun 20 11:39:21 <mbarnes> we're off the GNOME release schedule now for the gnome-3-4 branch since it only goes to 3.4.2
+Jun 20 11:39:49 <mbarnes> we're still pretty early in the current release cycle, so I wouldn't rule out a 3.4.4 later on if needed
+Jun 20 11:40:09 <mbarnes> evolution-3.5.3 and co will be released on Monday
+Jun 20 11:40:43 <mbarnes> evolution-exchange, evolution-groupwise, and evolution-kolab are still unbuildable due to the account-mgmt merge
+Jun 20 11:40:59 <mbarnes> evolution-ews mostly working again, and mcrha is working on evolution-mapi
+Jun 20 11:41:11 <mbarnes> I'll be hitting evolution-kolab next
+Jun 20 11:41:22 <mbarnes> the rest of them will get fixed in due time, I guess
+Jun 20 11:41:45 <mbarnes> moving on to discussion topics...
+Jun 20 11:42:00 <mbarnes> the only topic I had for today was about the meeting itself
+Jun 20 11:42:08 <mcrha> :)
+Jun 20 11:42:08 <mbarnes> I'm following the traditional IRC meeting format for today,
+Jun 20 11:42:23 <mbarnes> but since we're suddently a much smaller crew now,
+Jun 20 11:42:30 <mbarnes> (as evidenced by the channel members...)
+Jun 20 11:42:43 <mbarnes> I'm open to revising the meeting format if this is too formal,
+Jun 20 11:42:55 <mbarnes> or discussing whether we still need these monthly meetings at all
+Jun 20 11:43:04 <mbarnes> the goals for these meetings in my mind are:
+Jun 20 11:43:15 <mbarnes> keep everyone informed about upcoming events
+Jun 20 11:43:27 <mbarnes> foster communication between all the developers
+Jun 20 11:43:40 <mbarnes> and as needed, discuss important team-wide issues (like this)
+Jun 20 11:43:51 <mbarnes> and do so publicly and in a recorded format
+Jun 20 11:44:03 <mbarnes> as long as those goals are met, I don't care so much about the means
+Jun 20 11:44:12 <mbarnes> so... what do you guys think?
+Jun 20 11:44:40 <mcrha> like the evo-hackers comply with most of the goals, and addresses more people here?
+Jun 20 11:45:45 <mcrha> ...than here?
+Jun 20 11:45:53 <mbarnes> you're saying the evo-hackers list is pretty much sufficient?
+Jun 20 11:46:09 <dvratil> I guess IRC meeting can be summoned when needed, but if _this_ is all what's left of Evo team, EH is enough I guess (and easier to search in)
+Jun 20 11:46:57 <mcrha> yes, evo-hackers sufficient from my point of view
+Jun 20 11:47:02 <mbarnes> dwmw2_gone, xtian: any opinion?
+Jun 20 11:47:10 * mbarnes kinda wanted to hear from everyone
+Jun 20 11:48:51 <mbarnes> personally, I'm inclined to agree
+Jun 20 11:49:13 <mbarnes> the IRC channel and mailing list seems sufficient for this few developers
+Jun 20 11:49:24 <mbarnes> as long as we all post regularly to the mailing list
+Jun 20 11:49:37 <xtian> mbarnes: (sorry, catching up, processing...)
+Jun 20 11:49:41 <mcrha> regularly?
+Jun 20 11:50:45 <mbarnes> well, I'm mostly concerned with keeping track of what everyone's working on
+Jun 20 11:51:04 <mbarnes> if the mailing list becomes a ghost town or someone goes silent for months, that's a problem
+Jun 20 11:51:41 <xtian> kick him/her in (not from) the irc channel then
+Jun 20 11:51:54 <mbarnes> for example, I have no idea if srag is still working on his email-factory branch because he never posts an update
+Jun 20 11:53:40 <xtian> imho, in #evolution-meet, there's not much time to tell about individual updates
+Jun 20 11:53:54 <mcrha> I see. For me it's usually just bug activity, which doesn't make much sense to send updates, especially as bugzilla makes it for me
+Jun 20 11:54:27 <mbarnes> xtian: yeah, good point
+Jun 20 11:54:50 <mbarnes> individual updates to the mailing list work better for me too
+Jun 20 11:54:58 <mbarnes> I'm too wordy for real-time chat :)
+Jun 20 11:55:00 <xtian> irc chan is also not threaded, easy to lose track of who said what and who replied
+Jun 20 11:55:29 <dvratil> +1 for updates on mailing lists :-)
+Jun 20 11:55:31 <mcrha> s/chan/channel/
+Jun 20 11:55:34 <mcrha> I suppose :)
+Jun 20 11:55:57 * xtian trying to cut short his overly lengthy e-h list postings, anyone noticed? ;-)
+Jun 20 11:56:06 <xtian> mcrha: true
+Jun 20 11:56:17 <mbarnes> :)
+Jun 20 11:57:39 <mbarnes> okay... consensus seems to be mailing list is sufficient for individual updates and discussion topics
+Jun 20 11:58:01 <xtian> mbarnes: do you have an idea as to what "regular updates" could mean?
+Jun 20 11:58:07 * mcrha has working ema mail/book/cal, configuration lefts
+Jun 20 11:59:11 <mcrha> as I said above, my status updates are more than boring, just about bugs I was working on
+Jun 20 11:59:25 <mbarnes> xtian: I don't want to get too formal about it
+Jun 20 11:59:35 <xtian> mbarnes: fine
+Jun 20 11:59:41 <mbarnes> treat the mailing list as a technical blog with an interested audience :)
+Jun 20 12:00:09 <dvratil> mcrha, you can pipe git log --author...to E-H once a week :-)
+Jun 20 12:00:21 <mbarnes> haha
+Jun 20 12:00:32 <mcrha> yeah, and they will begin to like me ;)
+Jun 20 12:01:00 <mbarnes> I guess what I mean is as long as I'm not asking "hey whatever happened to so-and-so?", then I'm happy
+Jun 20 12:01:06 <xtian> mbarnes: which would reduce #evolution-meet to something like "haven't heard from srag in a while, anyone knowing whether he's still working on email-factory?"
+Jun 20 12:01:24 * dvratil has quit (Konversation terminated!)
+Jun 20 12:01:42 <mbarnes> pretty much :)
+Jun 20 12:02:00 * dvratil (~Dan ip4-95-82-187-209 cust nbox cz) has joined #evolution-meet
+Jun 20 12:02:03 <mbarnes> actually I'll email him and see what his status is
+Jun 20 12:03:23 * mcrha on a feeding duty
+Jun 20 12:03:50 <mcrha> I guess this is all for today, right?
+Jun 20 12:04:24 <mbarnes> yeah... I was gonna do one last round of status updates but seems no point
+Jun 20 12:04:31 * xtian has already sent his status update to e-h. :)
+Jun 20 12:05:02 <mbarnes> dvratil: have you started converting the composer at all or still fixing webkit regressions?
+Jun 20 12:05:21 <mcrha> and for me mbarnes did the main status update, I'm on ema porting to 3.5.3, configuration parts left.
+Jun 20 12:05:42 * mcrha is now known as mcrha|afk
+Jun 20 12:05:52 <dvratil> well since you are OK with shipping Evo 3.6 with GtkHTML composer, I decided to postpone it a little bit and finish the cool features in the new formatter first
+Jun 20 12:06:11 <mbarnes> oh okay, cool... makes sense
+Jun 20 12:06:35 <dvratil> there are still a few bugs from the webkit port, but nothing major, mostly fixed by the new formatter
+Jun 20 12:06:43 <mbarnes> as for my own status: just porting modules to the account-mgmt API and generally just fixing bugs for awhile
+Jun 20 12:06:55 <mbarnes> sounds silly, but I missed just fixing bugs
+Jun 20 12:07:15 <mbarnes> cool, sounds like we're in good shape with webkit
+Jun 20 12:07:26 <mbarnes> it's been working great for me... nice job! :)
+Jun 20 12:07:34 <mbarnes> I guess that wraps it up
+Jun 20 12:07:38 <mbarnes> thanks everyone
+Jun 20 12:07:39 <dvratil> yup, there's a regression in 1.9.x but I reported it, hopefully they fix it soon
+Jun 20 12:09:44 <xtian> thanks mbarnes for guiding us through
+Jun 20 12:10:24 <mbarnes> just for the log: decision is to hold IRC meetings as needed, and mostly use the evolution-hackers mailing list from here out
+
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml
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--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml
@@ -15,21 +15,33 @@
Here are the logs of previous meetings.
</p>
+<p>
+ <b>Update:</b> It was decided in the
+ <a href="meeting-logs/2012-06-20.shtml">June 20, 2012</a> meeting to
+ end regularly scheduled team meetings on account of the Evolution team
+ having so few developers left. The remaining developers will use the
+ <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-hackers";>
+ evolution-hackers mailing list</a> as the primary forum for technical
+ discussions, status updates and upcoming event reminders; which has
+ already been the case in practice for some time.
+</p>
+
<h3>2012</h3>
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+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-06-20.shtml">2012-06-20</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-05-16.shtml">2012-05-16</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-04-18.shtml">2012-04-18</a></li>
- <li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-03-21.shtml">2012-03-21</a></li>
</ul>
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+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-03-21.shtml">2012-03-21</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-02-15.shtml">2012-02-15</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2012-01-18.shtml">2012-01-18</a></li>
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