[gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution IRC meeting logs for April and May.
- From: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes src gnome org>
- To: commits-list gnome org
- Cc:
- Subject: [gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution IRC meeting logs for April and May.
- Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 14:26:08 +0000 (UTC)
commit 5d9042c28c40508afe19c48f7eb2d0b2a27f53ec
Author: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
Date: Mon May 23 10:25:36 2011 -0400
Add Evolution IRC meeting logs for April and May.
projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml | 8 +-
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2011-04-20.shtml | 206 ++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2011-04-20.txt | 191 +++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2011-05-18.shtml | 218 ++++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2011-05-18.txt | 203 ++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/Makefile.am | 2 +
projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml | 4 +-
7 files changed, 827 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
index 1abcef0..ce3f3ee 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
@@ -71,6 +71,8 @@
<div class="split-half">
<ul>
+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2011-05-18.shtml">2011-05-18</a></li>
+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2011-04-20.shtml">2011-04-20</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2011-03-23.shtml">2011-03-23</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2011-02-16.shtml">2011-02-16</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2011-01-26.shtml">2011-01-26</a></li>
@@ -83,8 +85,6 @@
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-06-16.shtml">2010-06-16</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-05-19.shtml">2010-05-19</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-04-28.shtml">2010-04-28</a></li>
- <li>2010-04-21 (no meeting)</li>
- <li>2010-04-14 (no meeting)</li>
</ul>
<div style="clear:both;"> </div>
@@ -94,6 +94,8 @@
<div class="split-half">
<ul>
+ <li>2010-04-21 (no meeting)</li>
+ <li>2010-04-14 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-04-07.shtml">2010-04-07</a></li>
<li>2010-03-31 (no meeting)</li>
<li>2010-03-24 (no meeting)</li>
@@ -105,8 +107,6 @@
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-02-10.shtml">2010-02-10</a></li>
<li>2010-02-03 (no meeting)</li>
<li>2010-02-03 (no meeting)</li>
- <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-20.shtml">2010-01-20</a></li>
- <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml">2010-01-13</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2011-04-20.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2011-04-20.shtml
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..28a3b2c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2011-04-20.shtml
@@ -0,0 +1,206 @@
+<!--#set var="title" value="IRC Team Meeting - April 20, 2011"-->
+<!--#set var="section" value="developer"-->
+<!--#include virtual="../head.shtml"-->
+
+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - April 20, 2011</h1>
+<div class="irclog">
+<p id="tApr 20 11:34:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:34:16" class="time">Apr 20 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">looks like we have a house full, lets get started :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:34:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:34:25" class="time">Apr 20 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">To start with project updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:34:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:34:47" class="time">Apr 20 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">we have a upcoming stable release coming Monday Apr 27, 3.0.1 release,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:35:14" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:35:14" class="time">Apr 20 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">please commit the patches which apply to the stable branch</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:35:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:35:36" class="time">Apr 20 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning32";>http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning32</a> - has been populated with our planned items for 3.2 release,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:36:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:36:01" class="time">Apr 20 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">please feel free to add/modify if there is anything more left out..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:36:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:36:35" class="time">Apr 20 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">feel happy to have the aplha release of evolution-ews which David announced recently,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:36:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:36:50" class="time">Apr 20 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-April/msg00060.html";>http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-April/msg00060.html</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:36:55" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:36:55" class="time">Apr 20 11:36</a> *mcrha is wondering which year is it? Monday is Apr 25th in his private calendar ;)</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:13" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, oops yup its 25th :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:16" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:22" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">bad note of mine ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:39" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:39" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">the release is no wednesday, where the date probably comes from</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:50" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, right!</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:51" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:51" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> *Macfiron (~silvan port-217-146-132-69 static qsc de) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:37:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:37:57" class="time">Apr 20 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">selected papers for GUADEC will be notified today</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:38:15" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:38:15" class="time">Apr 20 11:38</a> *verwilst has quit (Ex-Chat)</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:38:15" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:38:15" class="time">Apr 20 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">hope there would be couple of evolution related talks there..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:38:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:38:42" class="time">Apr 20 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">And watch out for mcrha's libebook/libecal overhauling and discussions are on at,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:38:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:38:48" class="time">Apr 20 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-April/msg00065.html";>http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-April/msg00065.html</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:39:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:39:17" class="time">Apr 20 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">update on sqlitedb for address-book,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:39:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:39:27" class="time">Apr 20 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">have just made a initial commit for the same at,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:39:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:39:32" class="time">Apr 20 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://git.infradead.org/evolution-ews.git/commit/4821f61203adfb7ec361ab84545e9334ba36b7d3";>http://git.infradead.org/evolution-ews.git/commit/4821f61203adfb7ec361ab84545e9334ba36b7d3</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:40:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:40:02" class="time">Apr 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">had added it in evolution-ews to start with as it is being targetted against evo 2.32 atm</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:40:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:40:04" class="time">Apr 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">nice one that :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:40:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:40:22" class="time">Apr 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">will put it into eds master once i complete it, possibly by next week</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:40:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:40:37" class="time">Apr 20 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">still some more work left out there</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:41:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:41:12" class="time">Apr 20 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">evolution-groupware tarball is with me and on my plate,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:41:24" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:41:24" class="time">Apr 20 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">will be getting sometime for it during the next week..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:41:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:41:48" class="time">Apr 20 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, the cache, would you mind to make it reusable for calendar too?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:42:08" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:42:08" class="time">Apr 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, sqlite cache for calendar?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:42:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:42:30" class="time">Apr 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yup, I guess it'll be better than the "all in memory" cache whihc is there right now</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:42:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:42:46" class="time">Apr 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, i have separated the code which could be used in common at utils in evolution-ews,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:42:58" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:42:58" class="time">Apr 20 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">i guess the rest will have to written separately for calendar</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:43:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:43:13" class="time">Apr 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">and as you'll have UID files, then it'll be doable for interval trees as well</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:43:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:43:23" class="time">Apr 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, we need to check if a db is needed for calendar</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:43:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:43:50" class="time">Apr 20 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">files backend is using icalcomponent :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:08" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:08" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, yup it needs to be ported to use BackendStore</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:22" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, which also follows the same pattern anyways :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:25" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, you support custom keys in the cache too, right?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:32" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, yup</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:36" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">good good</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:54" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:54" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> *EvaSDK (~eva nsg93-9-78-225-4-220 fbx proxad net) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:44:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:44:59" class="time">Apr 20 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Anything else to discuss before we move on to individual updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:45:21" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:45:21" class="time">Apr 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">updates from my side,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:45:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:45:46" class="time">Apr 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mostly on evolution-exchange customer issues and sneaking sometime for ews as well..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:45:55" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:45:55" class="time">Apr 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><rodrigo></span> <span class="text">just so you know the discussion about contacts that is taking place in d-d-l</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:45:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:45:57" class="time">Apr 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">kov, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:45:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:45:59" class="time">Apr 20 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:46:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:46:25" class="time">Apr 20 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">chen: been a dull month for me. Mostly on customer issues</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:46:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:46:43" class="time">Apr 20 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rodrigo, haven read it yet, though had noticed it</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:47:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:47:03" class="time">Apr 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dvratil, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:47:08" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:47:08" class="time">Apr 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jpunit></span> <span class="text">abharath: and gnome-asia too :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:47:19" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:47:19" class="time">Apr 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:47:24" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:47:24" class="time">Apr 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">yeah :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:47:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:47:44" class="time">Apr 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">EvaSDK, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:47:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:47:48" class="time">Apr 20 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:48:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:48:26" class="time">Apr 20 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:48:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:48:46" class="time">Apr 20 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">business as usual (sanity, bug triaging), nothing great :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:48:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:48:54" class="time">Apr 20 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jpunit></span> <span class="text">Hi all ..last month I worked on customer issues mainly, mostly exchange related..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:48:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:48:59" class="time">Apr 20 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, hehe</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:00" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">and some efforts on automation</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:26" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, it would be nice if you provide a screen-cast on the automation stuff :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:30" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:35" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">levu, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:47" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Macfiron, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:48" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Macfiron></span> <span class="text">-</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:54" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><EvaSDK></span> <span class="text">chen: nope</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:57" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><levu></span> <span class="text">chen: nope, just watching</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:58" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:58" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, sure, will try to get soon</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:49:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:49:59" class="time">Apr 20 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:50:18" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:50:18" class="time">Apr 20 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mauricelynch, any feedback from the alpha release of evolution-ews </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:50:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:50:20" class="time">Apr 20 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">yeah we like magic :D so videos please</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:50:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:50:33" class="time">Apr 20 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:50:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:50:36" class="time">Apr 20 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:51:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:51:02" class="time">Apr 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">just slogging my way through the account-mgmt branch. nothing significant to report just yet.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:51:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:51:12" class="time">Apr 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><mauricelynch></span> <span class="text">chen: Hi Guys, sorry I got pulled into other meetings</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:51:14" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:51:14" class="time">Apr 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:51:24" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:51:24" class="time">Apr 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mauricelynch, np</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:51:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:51:45" class="time">Apr 20 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><mauricelynch></span> <span class="text">This morning I built a MeeGo box with the latest EWS, and it works great</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:00" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mauricelynch, nice to hear that :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:09" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:11" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">basically on EClient stuff. I'll wait till Monday and do those clear changes in the branch at the beginning of the next week</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:13" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:13" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> *abharath whistles</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:31" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><mauricelynch></span> <span class="text">I need to play wiht Evolution a little to match my preferences, but working as expected :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:36" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, nice thanks!!</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:52:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:52:41" class="time">Apr 20 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mauricelynch: :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:19" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:19" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mauricelynch, great :), we will look forward for more feedback from you :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:26" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rodrigo, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:35" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><mauricelynch></span> <span class="text">For sure :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:36" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><rodrigo></span> <span class="text">chen, no, nothing :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:51" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rodrigo, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:54" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:53:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:53:59" class="time">Apr 20 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">evolution-kolab development goes on</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:54:10" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:54:10" class="time">Apr 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">all pim types working in online mode</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:54:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:54:11" class="time">Apr 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, nice :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:54:24" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:54:24" class="time">Apr 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">most bits configurable via frontend</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:54:34" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:54:34" class="time">Apr 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, wonderful :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:54:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:54:42" class="time">Apr 20 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">pim data collision detection is underway</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:55:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:55:06" class="time">Apr 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">offline mode will follow right after that</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:55:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:55:22" class="time">Apr 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, am very happy to hear particularly since it was new try with using mail backend in calendar/contacts :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:55:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:55:25" class="time">Apr 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">current plans are that by end of may we will be feature complete</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:55:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:55:44" class="time">Apr 20 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, nice :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:56:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:56:01" class="time">Apr 20 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Anything else from anyone ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:56:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:56:27" class="time">Apr 20 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: yes, i need to beat CamelSession and CamelIMAPX a little further (some heisenbugs there which in rare cases corrupt camel objects - cause yet unknown)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:57:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:57:11" class="time">Apr 20 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, any crashers ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:57:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:57:41" class="time">Apr 20 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">yup, assertion failure... CAMEL_IS_OBJECT chokes on junk data :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:58:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:58:17" class="time">Apr 20 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">but that is (almost sure of that) my mistake someplace while using all these funny camel bits :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:58:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:58:41" class="time">Apr 20 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, try valgrind with G_SLICE=always-malloc being set</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:06" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: yep, already doing that</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:09" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, and use --num-callers=50 too</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:12" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, ah, good</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:18" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:18" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> *abharath (~abharath ecoprobe-dmz gns novell com) has left #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:30" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: regularly, as part of quality assurance</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:36" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:36" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> *jpunit has quit (Leaving.)</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 11:59:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 11:59:54" class="time">Apr 20 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: bug has not yet shown when running under valgrind, but if it does, i'll squish it :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:00:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:00:05" class="time">Apr 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:00:07" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 12:00:07" class="time">Apr 20 12:00</a> *mcrha did too with EClient tests, found couple leaks which were backported to stable</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:00:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:00:36" class="time">Apr 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">good luck, xtian </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:00:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:00:36" class="time">Apr 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">some more good news: we're funded and set up for porting evolution-kolab to a then-current dev version of evo/eds by mid.year</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:00:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:00:44" class="time">Apr 20 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: thanks mcrha :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:01:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:01:05" class="time">Apr 20 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, wow, happy to hear that :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:01:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:01:12" class="time">Apr 20 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">(porting just in case anyone would actually like to *use* the stuff ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:01:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:01:35" class="time">Apr 20 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, it would be nice to have the code in upstream anyways :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:02:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:02:01" class="time">Apr 20 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: yep, we'll work on that as soon as we have the things running</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:02:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:02:16" class="time">Apr 20 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">cool</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:02:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:02:23" class="time">Apr 20 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">presently, things are *slow* and show much potential for improvement :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:02:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:02:46" class="time">Apr 20 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:03:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:03:00" class="time">Apr 20 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">when comparing with kontact, it seems they got *something* done in the past 7 years or so performance-wise... :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:03:34" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:03:34" class="time">Apr 20 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">but, it's nice to see that things are starting to work.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:03:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:03:41" class="time">Apr 20 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, oh i thought slow in the kolab backend, do you mean some operations are slow in evolution as a whole ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:03:55" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:03:55" class="time">Apr 20 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: no, evolution-kolab</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:04:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:04:02" class="time">Apr 20 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, ah ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:04:40" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:04:40" class="time">Apr 20 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Lets then meet next month more updates :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:04:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:04:44" class="time">Apr 20 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: kontact has been a reference client for kolab from very early kolab days on, so they have an advantage of a few working hours on their stuff</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:04:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:04:48" class="time">Apr 20 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Thanks everyone!</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:04:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:04:54" class="time">Apr 20 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">cu all</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:04:58" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 12:04:58" class="time">Apr 20 12:04</a> *chen continues with xtian :)</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:05:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:05:37" class="time">Apr 20 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, oh ok. how are you profiling with evolution-kolab ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:06:52" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 12:06:52" class="time">Apr 20 12:06</a> *lakhil has quit (Leaving)</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:07:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:07:03" class="time">Apr 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: no hard numbers as yet ... just by working with a few objects it shows that i have many suboptimal approaches in there</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:07:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:07:25" class="time">Apr 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:07:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:07:47" class="time">Apr 20 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">i know that in some situations, i can drop one or the other operation</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:08:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:08:13" class="time">Apr 20 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">what especially slows things down is that i need to sync imap folders before most operations</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:08:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:08:47" class="time">Apr 20 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, most operations ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:09:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:09:17" class="time">Apr 20 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: reading/storing of objects, that is</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:09:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:09:30" class="time">Apr 20 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: storing is the most interesting part</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:09:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:09:41" class="time">Apr 20 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">then, online/offline switching</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:11:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:11:06" class="time">Apr 20 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">and it does not suffice to look at the emails (or even imap uids) alone ... i need to fetch the messages, unpack them and do the data conversion to decide what to do about them</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:11:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:11:35" class="time">Apr 20 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">this is an inherent p.i.t.a. with the idea of storing pim data as emails</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:11:39" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:11:39" class="time">Apr 20 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, it maybe good if you can use the timers to check where your going wrong</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:12:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:12:05" class="time">Apr 20 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">yeah</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:12:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:12:47" class="time">Apr 20 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, valgrind has a tool for checking on performance too, i remember having used it long time back..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:12:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:12:51" class="time">Apr 20 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">before that, i'll need to get the functionality right -- then, i can work on getting it fast</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:13:08" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:13:08" class="time">Apr 20 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, fine</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:13:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:13:35" class="time">Apr 20 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">problem: we had to deal with such a lot of issues and trouble within this project, that we're running out of time</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:13:52" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 12:13:52" class="time">Apr 20 12:13</a> *levu has quit (Leaving.)</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:14:21" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:14:21" class="time">Apr 20 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">the 2.30 version in it's first version will mostly serve as a demonstrator so our customer will see that everything works (though it may be slow)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:15:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:15:04" class="time">Apr 20 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">then, when porting to 3.2 (i assume) we will have (i assume) a chance of focussing on better usability</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:15:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:15:28" class="time">Apr 20 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, makes sense</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:15:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:15:33" class="time">Apr 20 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">since (i assume ;-) 2.30 may not really be used by anyone out there :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:16:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:16:00" class="time">Apr 20 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, yeah and it now looks so far behind :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:16:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:16:06" class="time">Apr 20 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">yup</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:16:40" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:16:40" class="time">Apr 20 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">2.30 has served us well as a stable bed for initial development, since most of the code we will be able to just port-over to new versions</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:17:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:17:11" class="time">Apr 20 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">adjustments will be needed in EPlugin area (and we kept code small there) as well as in Camel area</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:18:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:18:16" class="time">Apr 20 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">and backends, if my changes to EClient will land before you'll start upporting (which I hope it will)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:18:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:18:30" class="time">Apr 20 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">the pim data converision stuff was *hard*, but this part will most probably not need more love than a little tweaking, if there should be any changes to ECalComponent or EContact</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:18:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:18:41" class="time">Apr 20 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, yeah thats quite a lot, but mostly straight forward changes..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:18:53" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:18:53" class="time">Apr 20 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: hope so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:19:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:19:23" class="time">Apr 20 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: when porting to >= 3.x, i'd like to get rid of the local IMAPX copy i keep around</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:19:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:19:59" class="time">Apr 20 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: maybe we can tweak IMAPX in a way that it can be exported from Camel so i can subclass it right away</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:20:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:20:37" class="time">Apr 20 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: yes, we're trying to keep ourselves updated reading the account management postings and the EClient stuff as well</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:20:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:20:42" class="time">Apr 20 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, yup that needs some work as we discussed long time back. we can summarize them and i can share some part of it to get it done..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:21:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:21:22" class="time">Apr 20 12:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, good :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:22:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:22:13" class="time">Apr 20 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, leaving out for dinner, catch you later..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:22:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:22:22" class="time">Apr 20 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: i've been running without vacation since may 2010, so expect me to be off for a couple of days this summer, once we're done with the initial project by the end of june</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:22:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:22:45" class="time">Apr 20 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">chen: yup, have a nice meal (it's always nice over there... :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:22:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:22:59" class="time">Apr 20 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">xtian, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:23:24" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:23:24" class="time">Apr 20 12:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: porting will show whether or not we did an appropriate job modularizing our stuff :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:23:51" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 12:23:51" class="time">Apr 20 12:23</a> *chen is now known as chen|dinner</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:24:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:24:41" class="time">Apr 20 12:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, not with backends, I did change quite much there, in both. Especially adding GCancellable to each async function, and changes authentication process in calendar</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:26:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:26:50" class="time">Apr 20 12:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: we'll see ... i'm not sure whether we will be able to convert to async backend within the porting project's timespan</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:27:16" class="action"><a href="#tApr 20 12:27:16" class="time">Apr 20 12:27</a> *Macfiron (~silvan port-217-146-132-69 static qsc de) has left #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:27:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:27:20" class="time">Apr 20 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: it's a shame that we are so much limited that we need to fight to at least get the functionality right</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:27:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:27:35" class="time">Apr 20 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, the backand is mostly as is, with respect of asynchronicity, the main async part changes are on the client side, not much visible for you</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:28:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:28:01" class="time">Apr 20 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: yes, i think i got that from the e-h postings</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:28:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:28:17" class="time">Apr 20 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">xtian, yeah, but I believe it'll be fine for you</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:28:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:28:57" class="time">Apr 20 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">mcrha: but seeing the nature of the kolab server, it would make sense to move to async backend (which we were not able to pursue right from the start due to the time constraints we are facing)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:29:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:29:46" class="time">Apr 20 12:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><xtian></span> <span class="text">if anyone who looks into our backend will tell "well, this is not crappy in *all* of it's aspects", then we will be happy. :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 20 12:29:56" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 20 12:29:56" class="time">Apr 20 12:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">:))</span></p>
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+Apr 20 11:34:16 <chen> looks like we have a house full, lets get started :)
+Apr 20 11:34:25 <chen> To start with project updates,
+Apr 20 11:34:47 <chen> we have a upcoming stable release coming Monday Apr 27, 3.0.1 release,
+Apr 20 11:35:14 <chen> please commit the patches which apply to the stable branch
+Apr 20 11:35:36 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning32 - has been populated with our planned items for 3.2 release,
+Apr 20 11:36:01 <chen> please feel free to add/modify if there is anything more left out..
+Apr 20 11:36:35 <chen> feel happy to have the aplha release of evolution-ews which David announced recently,
+Apr 20 11:36:50 <chen> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-April/msg00060.html
+Apr 20 11:36:55 * mcrha is wondering which year is it? Monday is Apr 25th in his private calendar ;)
+Apr 20 11:37:13 <chen> mcrha, oops yup its 25th :)
+Apr 20 11:37:16 <abharath> :)
+Apr 20 11:37:22 <chen> bad note of mine ;)
+Apr 20 11:37:39 <mcrha> the release is no wednesday, where the date probably comes from
+Apr 20 11:37:50 <chen> mcrha, right!
+Apr 20 11:37:51 * Macfiron (~silvan port-217-146-132-69 static qsc de) has joined #evolution-meet
+Apr 20 11:37:57 <chen> selected papers for GUADEC will be notified today
+Apr 20 11:38:15 * verwilst has quit (Ex-Chat)
+Apr 20 11:38:15 <chen> hope there would be couple of evolution related talks there..
+Apr 20 11:38:42 <chen> And watch out for mcrha's libebook/libecal overhauling and discussions are on at,
+Apr 20 11:38:48 <chen> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2011-April/msg00065.html
+Apr 20 11:39:17 <chen> update on sqlitedb for address-book,
+Apr 20 11:39:27 <chen> have just made a initial commit for the same at,
+Apr 20 11:39:32 <chen> http://git.infradead.org/evolution-ews.git/commit/4821f61203adfb7ec361ab84545e9334ba36b7d3
+Apr 20 11:40:02 <chen> had added it in evolution-ews to start with as it is being targetted against evo 2.32 atm
+Apr 20 11:40:04 <abharath> nice one that :)
+Apr 20 11:40:22 <chen> will put it into eds master once i complete it, possibly by next week
+Apr 20 11:40:37 <chen> still some more work left out there
+Apr 20 11:41:12 <chen> evolution-groupware tarball is with me and on my plate,
+Apr 20 11:41:24 <chen> will be getting sometime for it during the next week..
+Apr 20 11:41:48 <mcrha> chen, the cache, would you mind to make it reusable for calendar too?
+Apr 20 11:42:08 <chen> mcrha, sqlite cache for calendar?
+Apr 20 11:42:30 <mcrha> yup, I guess it'll be better than the "all in memory" cache whihc is there right now
+Apr 20 11:42:46 <chen> mcrha, i have separated the code which could be used in common at utils in evolution-ews,
+Apr 20 11:42:58 <chen> i guess the rest will have to written separately for calendar
+Apr 20 11:43:13 <mcrha> and as you'll have UID files, then it'll be doable for interval trees as well
+Apr 20 11:43:23 <chen> mcrha, we need to check if a db is needed for calendar
+Apr 20 11:43:50 <mcrha> files backend is using icalcomponent :)
+Apr 20 11:44:08 <chen> mcrha, yup it needs to be ported to use BackendStore
+Apr 20 11:44:22 <chen> mcrha, which also follows the same pattern anyways :)
+Apr 20 11:44:25 <mcrha> chen, you support custom keys in the cache too, right?
+Apr 20 11:44:32 <chen> mcrha, yup
+Apr 20 11:44:36 <mcrha> good good
+Apr 20 11:44:54 * EvaSDK (~eva nsg93-9-78-225-4-220 fbx proxad net) has joined #evolution-meet
+Apr 20 11:44:59 <chen> Anything else to discuss before we move on to individual updates?
+Apr 20 11:45:21 <chen> updates from my side,
+Apr 20 11:45:46 <chen> mostly on evolution-exchange customer issues and sneaking sometime for ews as well..
+Apr 20 11:45:55 <rodrigo> just so you know the discussion about contacts that is taking place in d-d-l
+Apr 20 11:45:57 <chen> kov, anything to share?
+Apr 20 11:45:59 <chen> abharath, updates?
+Apr 20 11:46:25 <abharath> chen: been a dull month for me. Mostly on customer issues
+Apr 20 11:46:43 <chen> rodrigo, haven read it yet, though had noticed it
+Apr 20 11:47:03 <chen> dvratil, anything to share?
+Apr 20 11:47:08 <jpunit> abharath: and gnome-asia too :)
+Apr 20 11:47:19 <lakhil> :)
+Apr 20 11:47:24 <chen> yeah :)
+Apr 20 11:47:44 <chen> EvaSDK, anything to share?
+Apr 20 11:47:48 <chen> jpunit, updates?
+Apr 20 11:48:26 <chen> lakhil, updates?
+Apr 20 11:48:46 <lakhil> business as usual (sanity, bug triaging), nothing great :-)
+Apr 20 11:48:54 <jpunit> Hi all ..last month I worked on customer issues mainly, mostly exchange related..
+Apr 20 11:48:59 <chen> lakhil, hehe
+Apr 20 11:49:00 <lakhil> and some efforts on automation
+Apr 20 11:49:26 <chen> lakhil, it would be nice if you provide a screen-cast on the automation stuff :)
+Apr 20 11:49:30 <chen> jpunit, thanks
+Apr 20 11:49:35 <chen> levu, anything to share?
+Apr 20 11:49:47 <chen> Macfiron, anything to share?
+Apr 20 11:49:48 <Macfiron> -
+Apr 20 11:49:54 <EvaSDK> chen: nope
+Apr 20 11:49:57 <levu> chen: nope, just watching
+Apr 20 11:49:58 <lakhil> chen, sure, will try to get soon
+Apr 20 11:49:59 <chen> thanks
+Apr 20 11:50:18 <chen> mauricelynch, any feedback from the alpha release of evolution-ews
+Apr 20 11:50:20 <abharath> yeah we like magic :D so videos please
+Apr 20 11:50:33 <chen> :)
+Apr 20 11:50:36 <chen> mbarnes, updates?
+Apr 20 11:51:02 <mbarnes> just slogging my way through the account-mgmt branch. nothing significant to report just yet.
+Apr 20 11:51:12 <mauricelynch> chen: Hi Guys, sorry I got pulled into other meetings
+Apr 20 11:51:14 <chen> mbarnes, thanks
+Apr 20 11:51:24 <chen> mauricelynch, np
+Apr 20 11:51:45 <mauricelynch> This morning I built a MeeGo box with the latest EWS, and it works great
+Apr 20 11:52:00 <chen> mauricelynch, nice to hear that :)
+Apr 20 11:52:09 <chen> mcrha, updates?
+Apr 20 11:52:11 <mcrha> basically on EClient stuff. I'll wait till Monday and do those clear changes in the branch at the beginning of the next week
+Apr 20 11:52:13 * abharath whistles
+Apr 20 11:52:31 <mauricelynch> I need to play wiht Evolution a little to match my preferences, but working as expected :)
+Apr 20 11:52:36 <chen> mcrha, nice thanks!!
+Apr 20 11:52:41 <abharath> mauricelynch: :)
+Apr 20 11:53:19 <chen> mauricelynch, great :), we will look forward for more feedback from you :)
+Apr 20 11:53:26 <chen> rodrigo, anything to share?
+Apr 20 11:53:35 <mauricelynch> For sure :)
+Apr 20 11:53:36 <rodrigo> chen, no, nothing :)
+Apr 20 11:53:51 <chen> rodrigo, :)
+Apr 20 11:53:54 <chen> xtian, updates?
+Apr 20 11:53:59 <xtian> evolution-kolab development goes on
+Apr 20 11:54:10 <xtian> all pim types working in online mode
+Apr 20 11:54:11 <chen> xtian, nice :)
+Apr 20 11:54:24 <xtian> most bits configurable via frontend
+Apr 20 11:54:34 <chen> xtian, wonderful :)
+Apr 20 11:54:42 <xtian> pim data collision detection is underway
+Apr 20 11:55:06 <xtian> offline mode will follow right after that
+Apr 20 11:55:22 <chen> xtian, am very happy to hear particularly since it was new try with using mail backend in calendar/contacts :)
+Apr 20 11:55:25 <xtian> current plans are that by end of may we will be feature complete
+Apr 20 11:55:44 <chen> xtian, nice :)
+Apr 20 11:56:01 <chen> Anything else from anyone ?
+Apr 20 11:56:27 <xtian> chen: yes, i need to beat CamelSession and CamelIMAPX a little further (some heisenbugs there which in rare cases corrupt camel objects - cause yet unknown)
+Apr 20 11:57:11 <chen> xtian, any crashers ?
+Apr 20 11:57:41 <xtian> yup, assertion failure... CAMEL_IS_OBJECT chokes on junk data :)
+Apr 20 11:58:17 <xtian> but that is (almost sure of that) my mistake someplace while using all these funny camel bits :)
+Apr 20 11:58:41 <mcrha> xtian, try valgrind with G_SLICE=always-malloc being set
+Apr 20 11:59:06 <xtian> mcrha: yep, already doing that
+Apr 20 11:59:09 <mcrha> xtian, and use --num-callers=50 too
+Apr 20 11:59:12 <mcrha> xtian, ah, good
+Apr 20 11:59:18 * abharath (~abharath ecoprobe-dmz gns novell com) has left #evolution-meet
+Apr 20 11:59:30 <xtian> mcrha: regularly, as part of quality assurance
+Apr 20 11:59:36 * jpunit has quit (Leaving.)
+Apr 20 11:59:54 <xtian> mcrha: bug has not yet shown when running under valgrind, but if it does, i'll squish it :)
+Apr 20 12:00:05 <chen> :)
+Apr 20 12:00:07 * mcrha did too with EClient tests, found couple leaks which were backported to stable
+Apr 20 12:00:36 <mcrha> good luck, xtian
+Apr 20 12:00:36 <xtian> some more good news: we're funded and set up for porting evolution-kolab to a then-current dev version of evo/eds by mid.year
+Apr 20 12:00:44 <xtian> mcrha: thanks mcrha :)
+Apr 20 12:01:05 <chen> xtian, wow, happy to hear that :)
+Apr 20 12:01:12 <xtian> (porting just in case anyone would actually like to *use* the stuff ;-)
+Apr 20 12:01:35 <chen> xtian, it would be nice to have the code in upstream anyways :)
+Apr 20 12:02:01 <xtian> chen: yep, we'll work on that as soon as we have the things running
+Apr 20 12:02:16 <chen> cool
+Apr 20 12:02:23 <xtian> presently, things are *slow* and show much potential for improvement :)
+Apr 20 12:02:46 <chen> ok
+Apr 20 12:03:00 <xtian> when comparing with kontact, it seems they got *something* done in the past 7 years or so performance-wise... :)
+Apr 20 12:03:34 <xtian> but, it's nice to see that things are starting to work.
+Apr 20 12:03:41 <chen> xtian, oh i thought slow in the kolab backend, do you mean some operations are slow in evolution as a whole ?
+Apr 20 12:03:55 <xtian> chen: no, evolution-kolab
+Apr 20 12:04:02 <chen> xtian, ah ok
+Apr 20 12:04:40 <chen> Lets then meet next month more updates :)
+Apr 20 12:04:44 <xtian> chen: kontact has been a reference client for kolab from very early kolab days on, so they have an advantage of a few working hours on their stuff
+Apr 20 12:04:48 <chen> Thanks everyone!
+Apr 20 12:04:54 <xtian> cu all
+Apr 20 12:04:58 * chen continues with xtian :)
+Apr 20 12:05:37 <chen> xtian, oh ok. how are you profiling with evolution-kolab ?
+Apr 20 12:06:52 * lakhil has quit (Leaving)
+Apr 20 12:07:03 <xtian> chen: no hard numbers as yet ... just by working with a few objects it shows that i have many suboptimal approaches in there
+Apr 20 12:07:25 <chen> ok
+Apr 20 12:07:47 <xtian> i know that in some situations, i can drop one or the other operation
+Apr 20 12:08:13 <xtian> what especially slows things down is that i need to sync imap folders before most operations
+Apr 20 12:08:47 <chen> xtian, most operations ?
+Apr 20 12:09:17 <xtian> chen: reading/storing of objects, that is
+Apr 20 12:09:30 <xtian> chen: storing is the most interesting part
+Apr 20 12:09:41 <xtian> then, online/offline switching
+Apr 20 12:11:06 <xtian> and it does not suffice to look at the emails (or even imap uids) alone ... i need to fetch the messages, unpack them and do the data conversion to decide what to do about them
+Apr 20 12:11:35 <xtian> this is an inherent p.i.t.a. with the idea of storing pim data as emails
+Apr 20 12:11:39 <chen> xtian, it maybe good if you can use the timers to check where your going wrong
+Apr 20 12:12:05 <xtian> yeah
+Apr 20 12:12:47 <chen> xtian, valgrind has a tool for checking on performance too, i remember having used it long time back..
+Apr 20 12:12:51 <xtian> before that, i'll need to get the functionality right -- then, i can work on getting it fast
+Apr 20 12:13:08 <chen> xtian, fine
+Apr 20 12:13:35 <xtian> problem: we had to deal with such a lot of issues and trouble within this project, that we're running out of time
+Apr 20 12:13:52 * levu has quit (Leaving.)
+Apr 20 12:14:21 <xtian> the 2.30 version in it's first version will mostly serve as a demonstrator so our customer will see that everything works (though it may be slow)
+Apr 20 12:15:04 <xtian> then, when porting to 3.2 (i assume) we will have (i assume) a chance of focussing on better usability
+Apr 20 12:15:28 <chen> xtian, makes sense
+Apr 20 12:15:33 <xtian> since (i assume ;-) 2.30 may not really be used by anyone out there :)
+Apr 20 12:16:00 <chen> xtian, yeah and it now looks so far behind :)
+Apr 20 12:16:06 <xtian> yup
+Apr 20 12:16:40 <xtian> 2.30 has served us well as a stable bed for initial development, since most of the code we will be able to just port-over to new versions
+Apr 20 12:17:11 <xtian> adjustments will be needed in EPlugin area (and we kept code small there) as well as in Camel area
+Apr 20 12:18:16 <mcrha> and backends, if my changes to EClient will land before you'll start upporting (which I hope it will)
+Apr 20 12:18:30 <xtian> the pim data converision stuff was *hard*, but this part will most probably not need more love than a little tweaking, if there should be any changes to ECalComponent or EContact
+Apr 20 12:18:41 <chen> xtian, yeah thats quite a lot, but mostly straight forward changes..
+Apr 20 12:18:53 <xtian> chen: hope so
+Apr 20 12:19:23 <xtian> chen: when porting to >= 3.x, i'd like to get rid of the local IMAPX copy i keep around
+Apr 20 12:19:59 <xtian> chen: maybe we can tweak IMAPX in a way that it can be exported from Camel so i can subclass it right away
+Apr 20 12:20:37 <xtian> mcrha: yes, we're trying to keep ourselves updated reading the account management postings and the EClient stuff as well
+Apr 20 12:20:42 <chen> xtian, yup that needs some work as we discussed long time back. we can summarize them and i can share some part of it to get it done..
+Apr 20 12:21:22 <mcrha> xtian, good :)
+Apr 20 12:22:13 <chen> xtian, leaving out for dinner, catch you later..
+Apr 20 12:22:22 <xtian> chen: i've been running without vacation since may 2010, so expect me to be off for a couple of days this summer, once we're done with the initial project by the end of june
+Apr 20 12:22:45 <xtian> chen: yup, have a nice meal (it's always nice over there... :)
+Apr 20 12:22:59 <chen> xtian, :)
+Apr 20 12:23:24 <xtian> mcrha: porting will show whether or not we did an appropriate job modularizing our stuff :)
+Apr 20 12:23:51 * chen is now known as chen|dinner
+Apr 20 12:24:41 <mcrha> xtian, not with backends, I did change quite much there, in both. Especially adding GCancellable to each async function, and changes authentication process in calendar
+Apr 20 12:26:50 <xtian> mcrha: we'll see ... i'm not sure whether we will be able to convert to async backend within the porting project's timespan
+Apr 20 12:27:16 * Macfiron (~silvan port-217-146-132-69 static qsc de) has left #evolution-meet
+Apr 20 12:27:20 <xtian> mcrha: it's a shame that we are so much limited that we need to fight to at least get the functionality right
+Apr 20 12:27:35 <mcrha> xtian, the backand is mostly as is, with respect of asynchronicity, the main async part changes are on the client side, not much visible for you
+Apr 20 12:28:01 <xtian> mcrha: yes, i think i got that from the e-h postings
+Apr 20 12:28:17 <mcrha> xtian, yeah, but I believe it'll be fine for you
+Apr 20 12:28:57 <xtian> mcrha: but seeing the nature of the kolab server, it would make sense to move to async backend (which we were not able to pursue right from the start due to the time constraints we are facing)
+Apr 20 12:29:46 <xtian> if anyone who looks into our backend will tell "well, this is not crappy in *all* of it's aspects", then we will be happy. :)
+Apr 20 12:29:56 <mcrha> :))
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+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - May 18, 2011</h1>
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+<p id="tMay 18 11:33:50" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:33:50" class="time">May 18 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">time up. lets get started!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:34:01" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:34:01" class="time">May 18 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">starting with project updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:34:26" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:34:26" class="time">May 18 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">we had the evolution-3.1.1 unstable release on may 9 and,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:34:43" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:34:43" class="time">May 18 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">evolution-groupwise was released as a separate package on the same day..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:34:58" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:34:58" class="time">May 18 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">all the groupwise code has been removed from evo+eds</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:35:24" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:35:24" class="time">May 18 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Please ensure that the patches which apply to the stable releases are committed back to evo+eds gnome-3.0 branch.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:35:57" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:35:57" class="time">May 18 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">We also have a stable release 3.0.2 coming up this monday (and thats on my birthday ;) ),</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:36:21" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:36:21" class="time">May 18 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">please commit the patches that apply to the stable branch by this week so that it can get into the stable release..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:36:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:36:48" class="time">May 18 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">sqlitedb for address-book is almost complete with one or two apis left,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:36:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:36:55" class="time">May 18 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-ews/tree/src/addressbook/e-book-backend-sqlitedb.h";>http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-ews/tree/src/addressbook/e-book-backend-sqlitedb.h</a></span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:37:20" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:37:20" class="time">May 18 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">has the apis list and it be added into eds for 3.1.2..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:37:59" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:37:59" class="time">May 18 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha has been going fast on re-factoring the libebook and libecal apis and all the discussions are active on</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:38:02" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:38:02" class="time">May 18 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">e-h list</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:38:39" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:38:39" class="time">May 18 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">more info. would be available in individual updates..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:39:04" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 11:39:04" class="time">May 18 11:39</a> *mcrha is finishing it, with a bit of luck it'll land in the master by the very beginning of the next week (even more luckily by the end of this week)</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:39:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:39:19" class="time">May 18 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, nice :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:39:25" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:39:25" class="time">May 18 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">sweetness</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:39:50" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:39:50" class="time">May 18 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">we have left the evolution-ews to stay on with 2.32 and 3.0,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:40:08" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 11:40:08" class="time">May 18 11:40</a> *Fridrich (~fridrich 166-249 198-178 cust bluewin ch) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:40:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:40:09" class="time">May 18 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">it will be made to work with 3.2 once the api changes get slowed down a bit..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:40:41" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:40:41" class="time">May 18 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">Fridrich: o/</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:40:42" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:40:42" class="time">May 18 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">thats it with general project updates..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:40:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:40:48" class="time">May 18 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">abharath: :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:41:12" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:41:12" class="time">May 18 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">does anyone have anything to discuss before we move on to individual updates ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:41:54" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:41:54" class="time">May 18 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">updates from my side,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:42:13" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:42:13" class="time">May 18 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">just got the sqlitedb for address-book almost completed,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:42:26" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:42:26" class="time">May 18 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">it has all the support that we had discussed on e-h list,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:42:39" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:42:39" class="time">May 18 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">but i have not been able to do the performance testing between,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:42:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:42:55" class="time">May 18 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">having the vcards in db vs having them as separate files yet.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:43:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:43:19" class="time">May 18 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">did some work on evolution-groupware (pruned) and with evolution-groupwise (gone in) :),</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:43:43" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:43:43" class="time">May 18 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">it's nice to have that split out, finally</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:43:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:43:48" class="time">May 18 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">going personal address-book for ews,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:43:50" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:43:50" class="time">May 18 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:43:54" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:43:54" class="time">May 18 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and gal offline support</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:43:58" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:43:58" class="time">May 18 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:44:17" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:44:17" class="time">May 18 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">GAL offline support is gonna be huge work :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:44:50" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:44:50" class="time">May 18 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">am going through the differences between lzx and lzx delta compression,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:44:55" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 11:44:55" class="time">May 18 11:44</a> *vibs (~yvibha 122 167 211 112) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:45:10" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:45:10" class="time">May 18 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">formats and trying to re-use lzx decompression code at places where it could be</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:45:40" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:45:40" class="time">May 18 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, I see there is missing some kind of "only_fields" API, but that might be one of those missing you talked about at the beginning</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:45:44" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:45:44" class="time">May 18 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">starting to look in a bit of imapx usage on mobile devices as well..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:46:07" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:46:07" class="time">May 18 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, nope, i don have that in the list..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:46:14" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:46:14" class="time">May 18 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, only_fields ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:46:31" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:46:31" class="time">May 18 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, u mean to be able to get only selected fields ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:47:00" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:47:00" class="time">May 18 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, as you, I believe it was you, mentioned on e-h list, when, for example, autocompleting, then you are not interested in the complete contact, but only email, name, and maybe few others, So restrict it</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:47:28" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:47:28" class="time">May 18 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yeah, that's it, only selected fields</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:47:33" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:47:33" class="time">May 18 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, i have added options to cache the contacts partially</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:47:50" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:47:50" class="time">May 18 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, but not to get the selective contents from the cache</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:48:17" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:48:17" class="time">May 18 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, its better to leave that to the backend to choose isn it ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:48:23" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:48:23" class="time">May 18 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">backend may not know much/anything about this, only the "summary" part of the case should know few common fields, and the cache may benefit from its content</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:48:40" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:48:40" class="time">May 18 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">s/case/cache/</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:49:07" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:49:07" class="time">May 18 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, if the contacts are cached for auto-completion,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:49:19" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 11:49:19" class="time">May 18 11:49</a> *mcrha imagined it as CamelFolderSummary and message info-s</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:49:34" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:49:34" class="time">May 18 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">ah ok, i can understand..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:49:54" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:49:54" class="time">May 18 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, will add a api to suit the auto-completion aspect</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:50:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:50:09" class="time">May 18 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">it's just one usecase ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:50:14" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:50:14" class="time">May 18 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, will form vcards with just,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:50:27" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:50:27" class="time">May 18 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">data necessary for auto-completion </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:50:50" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:50:50" class="time">May 18 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">without parsing actual vcards, that's the point</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:50:53" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:50:53" class="time">May 18 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, i cannot think of any other case,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:51:02" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:51:02" class="time">May 18 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">where the client would need partial data..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:51:17" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:51:17" class="time">May 18 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, yes right, but anyways a vcard would be formed</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:51:24" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 11:51:24" class="time">May 18 11:51</a> *mcrha believes in pohly being abble to invent few more</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:51:51" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:51:51" class="time">May 18 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, as we have to pass the data only via vcards at-least according to the api's</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:52:01" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:52:01" class="time">May 18 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, sure for output, not using them, those complete contacts, as input</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:52:39" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:52:39" class="time">May 18 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, cant get u</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:52:45" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:52:45" class="time">May 18 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">mcrha: correct :-) My main use case is to have contacts delivered with and without PHOTO data.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:53:10" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:53:10" class="time">May 18 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, ah, the photos are any way stored as uri,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:53:24" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:53:24" class="time">May 18 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">in vcards so it wont matter much i guess ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:53:49" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:53:49" class="time">May 18 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, ask cache for certain values, and cache will not parse stored vCards, but will produce new restricted vCards from its summary information only</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:54:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:54:09" class="time">May 18 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">That's a new feature of the sqlite based backend, right? The traditional file backend stores them inline.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:54:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:54:37" class="time">May 18 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, yup we have them as columns and not in memory as the earlier one..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:54:38" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:54:38" class="time">May 18 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">chen: how does an app decide whether it wants the data inline or as uri?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:54:56" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:54:56" class="time">May 18 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">SyncEvolution wants it inline, so that it can send the data to a peer.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:55:02" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:55:02" class="time">May 18 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, good</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:55:13" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:55:13" class="time">May 18 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, will check it up, i had been thinking,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:55:21" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:55:21" class="time">May 18 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">we always have it as a uri</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:55:47" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:55:47" class="time">May 18 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">pohly, I guess chen misplaced it with attachments, which are as local uri, but photos are always inline</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:56:01" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:56:01" class="time">May 18 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, hmm but it can form the vcard after its gets the data from eds isn it ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:56:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:56:37" class="time">May 18 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">attachments in calendar, photos in contacts, it is</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:56:38" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:56:38" class="time">May 18 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">chen: for that it has to know about this feature. Right now it takes the PHOTO property as it is, without translating between files and inline data.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:56:57" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:56:57" class="time">May 18 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">My own thoughts on photo are here: <a href="http://wiki.meego.com/Architecture/planning/evolution-data-server/eds-improvements#contacts:_store_PHOTO_data_as_plain_files";>http://wiki.meego.com/Architecture/planning/evolution-data-server/eds-improvements#contacts:_store_PHOTO_data_as_plain_files</a></span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:57:25" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:57:25" class="time">May 18 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, will read through it</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:57:47" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:57:47" class="time">May 18 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">calendar am sure stores all the attachments as uri;s</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:57:53" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:57:53" class="time">May 18 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">We hope that Openismus will be able to work on this soon. Expect them to show up evo-hackers with a more specific proposal.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:57:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:57:55" class="time">May 18 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">need to check on contacts</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:58:08" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:58:08" class="time">May 18 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, cool</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:58:24" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:58:24" class="time">May 18 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, so would the need be that photo,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:58:31" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:58:31" class="time">May 18 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">be stored in the vcard itself ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:58:32" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:58:32" class="time">May 18 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">chen: trust me, PHOTOs are traditionally stored inline.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:58:42" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:58:42" class="time">May 18 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:01" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:01" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> *dave_largo (~drichard rrcs-24-73-120-180 se biz rr com) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:09" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, looks like we have a requirement :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:10" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:10" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">jpunit: ! :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:15" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:15" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">The goal is to not have PHOTO data inside the vCard. That way only the link to a file needs to go through D-Bus and into the vCard.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:17" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:17" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">hey dave_largo </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:28" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:28" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">hey guys, back from lunch</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:56" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:56" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, pohly, yup, makes sense</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:57" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:57" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><pohly></span> <span class="text">Obviously this is again an optimization which only makes sense if the backend is really local...</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 11:59:57" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 11:59:57" class="time">May 18 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, ah ok, thats the way i assumed it would work, if it does not work that way, will make changes,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:00:03" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:00:03" class="time">May 18 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">fine ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:00:32" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:00:32" class="time">May 18 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">prolly we could discuss on e-h and make a call..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:00:36" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 12:00:36" class="time">May 18 12:00</a> *vibs has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:00:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:00:48" class="time">May 18 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">will inititate a thread on the same after reading through,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:00:52" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:00:52" class="time">May 18 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly's link</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:01:33" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:01:33" class="time">May 18 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">moving on with individual updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:01:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:01:37" class="time">May 18 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, updates..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:01:42" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:01:42" class="time">May 18 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><jpunit></span> <span class="text">Hi dave_largo</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:02:05" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:02:05" class="time">May 18 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, thanks for bringing this up :), i would have surely missed it..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:02:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:02:37" class="time">May 18 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">hey chen, mostly on downstream issues for now. Most of them Exchange 2003 related. I and jpunit would be upstreaming the pending patches soon</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:02:39" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 12:02:39" class="time">May 18 12:02</a> *mcrha is happy to be useful</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:02:44" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:02:44" class="time">May 18 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:02:54" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:02:54" class="time">May 18 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, thanks!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:12" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:12" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">kov, andre_ dave_largo anything to share ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:30" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:30" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">nothing here, except that jpunit is my new best friend :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:36" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:36" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:37" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">hehe</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:48" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><andre_></span> <span class="text">nothing new here - I want to work on the user docs rewrite but not much time</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:49" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:49" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><andre_></span> <span class="text">Progress on relicensing of the old manual would be welcome though, dear Novell. :-P</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:03:58" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:03:58" class="time">May 18 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><jpunit></span> <span class="text">hehe.. </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:04:03" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:04:03" class="time">May 18 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">oops i forgot to update</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:04:14" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:04:14" class="time">May 18 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">andre_, have got the approval from the team</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:04:24" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:04:24" class="time">May 18 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">andre_, we can go ahead with re-licencing</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:04:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:04:37" class="time">May 18 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">andre_, do you want me to do it ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:04:49" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 12:04:49" class="time">May 18 12:04</a> *vibs (~yvibha 122 178 201 130) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:04:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:04:55" class="time">May 18 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:05:01" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:05:01" class="time">May 18 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><andre_></span> <span class="text">chen, go, go, go! :-*</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:05:12" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:05:12" class="time">May 18 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">andre_, ok :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:05:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:05:19" class="time">May 18 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:05:49" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:05:49" class="time">May 18 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">knirav, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:05:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:05:55" class="time">May 18 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><knirav></span> <span class="text">Chen, Nothing from my side</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:05" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:05" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:06" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:06" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><jpunit></span> <span class="text">Hi, I was working mostly on customer issues. Mostly on exchange and dave_largo's issue also..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:12" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:12" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">andre_, will you merge new manual in master just after licensing ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:28" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:28" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, besides downstream customer issues and testing, did some testing on master for evolution-groupwise changes, moved respective bugs out of evolution and eds to new product.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:30" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:30" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">chen: I don't share anything, but you can share with me</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:34" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:34" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><andre_></span> <span class="text">lakhil, no</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:45" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:45" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:52" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:52" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><andre_></span> <span class="text">it will be merged when it is in an acceptable state. and that will take a few more weeks/months</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:06:56" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:06:56" class="time">May 18 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><andre_></span> <span class="text">maybe around August</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:02" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:02" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit, lakhil thanks!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:11" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:11" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">andre_, okies</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:16" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:16" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:19" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">past month:</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:19" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">talked with davidz about evo integration with gnome online accounts</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:19" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">talked with alexl about the new libfolks-based contacts app for gnome3</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:19" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">(will post more concrete info about these projects when I know more)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:19" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">simplified mail folder URI handling in evo</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:19" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">and picking at the account-mgmt branch in the background. still targeting 3.2.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:07:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:07:48" class="time">May 18 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, thanks!!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:08:21" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:08:21" class="time">May 18 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, anything related to presence indication with evo ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:08:44" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:08:44" class="time">May 18 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">w.r.t libfolks..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:08:48" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:08:48" class="time">May 18 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:08:57" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:08:57" class="time">May 18 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">yes, alex has quite a few mockups of libfolks integration</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:09:05" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:09:05" class="time">May 18 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">as mentioned earlier, finishing changes in eclient branch before merging. Otherwise touched few bugs, but really only few</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:09:08" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:09:08" class="time">May 18 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">nice!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:09:19" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:09:19" class="time">May 18 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, thanks!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:09:25" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:09:25" class="time">May 18 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">pohly, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:10:05" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:10:05" class="time">May 18 12:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rgs, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:10:44" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:10:44" class="time">May 18 12:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">seanius, updates ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:11:14" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:11:14" class="time">May 18 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:11:30" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:11:30" class="time">May 18 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">chen, any progress on getting EDS to dump to bug-buddy?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:11:35" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:11:35" class="time">May 18 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><rgs></span> <span class="text">chen: a couple of updates coming through to improve introspection support!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:11:45" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:11:45" class="time">May 18 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rgs, thanks!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:11:56" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:11:56" class="time">May 18 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><rgs></span> <span class="text">chen: i am working right now on rebasing libfolks e-d-s backend, that should hit the light soon </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:12:14" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:12:14" class="time">May 18 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, no idea..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:12:36" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:12:36" class="time">May 18 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, maybe knirav might know..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:10" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:10" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">If someone figures out how to make that happen, that should go back into the community project for sure.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:15" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:15" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">we are losing tons of information when it crashes</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:17" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:17" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><knirav></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, we will need to look into it.That would be our focus once the meeting appearing in task is resolved</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:18" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:18" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rgs, ah nice, sharing contacts between empathy and eds ?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:27" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:27" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">fair enough</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:37" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><rgs></span> <span class="text">chen: yes, contact aggregation </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:41" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:41" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">nice!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:13:42" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:13:42" class="time">May 18 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><seanius></span> <span class="text">chen: not beuond what we discussed earlier</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:14:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:14:09" class="time">May 18 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">seanius, will get the patches in tomorrow..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:14:20" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:14:20" class="time">May 18 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><rgs></span> <span class="text">chen: hopefully i'll have something useful for Alex by the end of this week so he can integrate with the work he is doing </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:14:34" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:14:34" class="time">May 18 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">rgs, cool</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:14:38" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:14:38" class="time">May 18 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><jpunit></span> <span class="text">chen: vibs's internet connection got disconnected, she said me to update here.. last week she worked on evolution-groupwise, some customer bugs and some upstream bugs as well.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:14:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:14:55" class="time">May 18 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit, thanks!</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:14:57" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 12:14:57" class="time">May 18 12:14</a> *vibs has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds)</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:15:02" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:15:02" class="time">May 18 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, if I recall correctly then bug-buddy is working automatically for gtk+ application, thus initializing gtk+ in eds main() may do the trick. The problem is that the server should be able to run withouth X too.</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:15:24" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:15:24" class="time">May 18 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">knirav: ^^</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:15:25" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:15:25" class="time">May 18 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs will also be working on write support for ews personal address-book..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:15:48" class="action"><a href="#tMay 18 12:15:48" class="time">May 18 12:15</a> *vibs (~yvibha 122 178 234 76) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:16:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:16:09" class="time">May 18 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">So it needs to check if it's headless and then only initialize gtk+ if there is an Xserver</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:16:13" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:16:13" class="time">May 18 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, punit has provided updates on ur behalf (if ur still connected) :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:16:23" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:16:23" class="time">May 18 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><vibs></span> <span class="text">hey hiii, yupp</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:16:31" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:16:31" class="time">May 18 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><vibs></span> <span class="text">now m connected</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:16:35" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:16:35" class="time">May 18 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:16:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:16:37" class="time">May 18 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, I would try gtk_init_check() and just ignore the result, (or print on console) in the main() just after g_type_init() call or near that place</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:17:22" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:17:22" class="time">May 18 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><vibs></span> <span class="text">yes for past few weeks, I have worked on certain customer issues, and a few upstream bugs, and focused on evolution-groupwise package. </span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:17:52" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:17:52" class="time">May 18 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, thanks and i just updated that u will also be working on write support for ews personal address-book..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:18:09" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:18:09" class="time">May 18 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, jpunit can prolly make that patch for u..</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:18:12" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:18:12" class="time">May 18 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><vibs></span> <span class="text">yes :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:18:23" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:18:23" class="time">May 18 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">knirav, ^^</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:18:37" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:18:37" class="time">May 18 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">If we can get crash dumps from EDS, that will be a HUGE issue for stability</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:18:49" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:18:49" class="time">May 18 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">I believe that it's just a few nagging crashers</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:18:55" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:18:55" class="time">May 18 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><knirav></span> <span class="text">dave_largo,point taken</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:19:21" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:19:21" class="time">May 18 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">anything else from anyone before we wind up?</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:20:34" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:20:34" class="time">May 18 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Lets then meet next month with more excitement awaited in master :)</span></p>
+<p id="tMay 18 12:20:38" class="comment"><a href="#tMay 18 12:20:38" class="time">May 18 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">thanks everyone!</span></p>
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+May 18 11:33:50 <chen> time up. lets get started!
+May 18 11:34:01 <chen> starting with project updates,
+May 18 11:34:26 <chen> we had the evolution-3.1.1 unstable release on may 9 and,
+May 18 11:34:43 <chen> evolution-groupwise was released as a separate package on the same day..
+May 18 11:34:58 <chen> all the groupwise code has been removed from evo+eds
+May 18 11:35:24 <chen> Please ensure that the patches which apply to the stable releases are committed back to evo+eds gnome-3.0 branch.
+May 18 11:35:57 <chen> We also have a stable release 3.0.2 coming up this monday (and thats on my birthday ;) ),
+May 18 11:36:21 <chen> please commit the patches that apply to the stable branch by this week so that it can get into the stable release..
+May 18 11:36:48 <chen> sqlitedb for address-book is almost complete with one or two apis left,
+May 18 11:36:55 <chen> http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution-ews/tree/src/addressbook/e-book-backend-sqlitedb.h
+May 18 11:37:20 <chen> has the apis list and it be added into eds for 3.1.2..
+May 18 11:37:59 <chen> mcrha has been going fast on re-factoring the libebook and libecal apis and all the discussions are active on
+May 18 11:38:02 <chen> e-h list
+May 18 11:38:39 <chen> more info. would be available in individual updates..
+May 18 11:39:04 * mcrha is finishing it, with a bit of luck it'll land in the master by the very beginning of the next week (even more luckily by the end of this week)
+May 18 11:39:19 <chen> mcrha, nice :)
+May 18 11:39:25 <abharath> sweetness
+May 18 11:39:50 <chen> we have left the evolution-ews to stay on with 2.32 and 3.0,
+May 18 11:40:08 * Fridrich (~fridrich 166-249 198-178 cust bluewin ch) has joined #evolution-meet
+May 18 11:40:09 <chen> it will be made to work with 3.2 once the api changes get slowed down a bit..
+May 18 11:40:41 <abharath> Fridrich: o/
+May 18 11:40:42 <chen> thats it with general project updates..
+May 18 11:40:48 <Fridrich> abharath: :)
+May 18 11:41:12 <chen> does anyone have anything to discuss before we move on to individual updates ?
+May 18 11:41:54 <chen> updates from my side,
+May 18 11:42:13 <chen> just got the sqlitedb for address-book almost completed,
+May 18 11:42:26 <chen> it has all the support that we had discussed on e-h list,
+May 18 11:42:39 <chen> but i have not been able to do the performance testing between,
+May 18 11:42:55 <chen> having the vcards in db vs having them as separate files yet.
+May 18 11:43:19 <chen> did some work on evolution-groupware (pruned) and with evolution-groupwise (gone in) :),
+May 18 11:43:43 <mbarnes> it's nice to have that split out, finally
+May 18 11:43:48 <chen> going personal address-book for ews,
+May 18 11:43:50 <abharath> mbarnes: :)
+May 18 11:43:54 <chen> and gal offline support
+May 18 11:43:58 <chen> mbarnes, :)
+May 18 11:44:17 <abharath> GAL offline support is gonna be huge work :)
+May 18 11:44:50 <chen> am going through the differences between lzx and lzx delta compression,
+May 18 11:44:55 * vibs (~yvibha 122 167 211 112) has joined #evolution-meet
+May 18 11:45:10 <chen> formats and trying to re-use lzx decompression code at places where it could be
+May 18 11:45:40 <mcrha> chen, I see there is missing some kind of "only_fields" API, but that might be one of those missing you talked about at the beginning
+May 18 11:45:44 <chen> starting to look in a bit of imapx usage on mobile devices as well..
+May 18 11:46:07 <chen> mcrha, nope, i don have that in the list..
+May 18 11:46:14 <chen> mcrha, only_fields ?
+May 18 11:46:31 <chen> mcrha, u mean to be able to get only selected fields ?
+May 18 11:47:00 <mcrha> chen, as you, I believe it was you, mentioned on e-h list, when, for example, autocompleting, then you are not interested in the complete contact, but only email, name, and maybe few others, So restrict it
+May 18 11:47:28 <mcrha> yeah, that's it, only selected fields
+May 18 11:47:33 <chen> mcrha, i have added options to cache the contacts partially
+May 18 11:47:50 <chen> mcrha, but not to get the selective contents from the cache
+May 18 11:48:17 <chen> mcrha, its better to leave that to the backend to choose isn it ?
+May 18 11:48:23 <mcrha> backend may not know much/anything about this, only the "summary" part of the case should know few common fields, and the cache may benefit from its content
+May 18 11:48:40 <mcrha> s/case/cache/
+May 18 11:49:07 <chen> mcrha, if the contacts are cached for auto-completion,
+May 18 11:49:19 * mcrha imagined it as CamelFolderSummary and message info-s
+May 18 11:49:34 <chen> ah ok, i can understand..
+May 18 11:49:54 <chen> mcrha, will add a api to suit the auto-completion aspect
+May 18 11:50:09 <mcrha> it's just one usecase ;)
+May 18 11:50:14 <chen> mcrha, will form vcards with just,
+May 18 11:50:27 <chen> data necessary for auto-completion
+May 18 11:50:50 <mcrha> without parsing actual vcards, that's the point
+May 18 11:50:53 <chen> mcrha, i cannot think of any other case,
+May 18 11:51:02 <chen> where the client would need partial data..
+May 18 11:51:17 <chen> mcrha, yes right, but anyways a vcard would be formed
+May 18 11:51:24 * mcrha believes in pohly being abble to invent few more
+May 18 11:51:51 <chen> mcrha, as we have to pass the data only via vcards at-least according to the api's
+May 18 11:52:01 <mcrha> chen, sure for output, not using them, those complete contacts, as input
+May 18 11:52:39 <chen> mcrha, cant get u
+May 18 11:52:45 <pohly> mcrha: correct :-) My main use case is to have contacts delivered with and without PHOTO data.
+May 18 11:53:10 <chen> pohly, ah, the photos are any way stored as uri,
+May 18 11:53:24 <chen> in vcards so it wont matter much i guess ?
+May 18 11:53:49 <mcrha> chen, ask cache for certain values, and cache will not parse stored vCards, but will produce new restricted vCards from its summary information only
+May 18 11:54:09 <pohly> That's a new feature of the sqlite based backend, right? The traditional file backend stores them inline.
+May 18 11:54:37 <chen> mcrha, yup we have them as columns and not in memory as the earlier one..
+May 18 11:54:38 <pohly> chen: how does an app decide whether it wants the data inline or as uri?
+May 18 11:54:56 <pohly> SyncEvolution wants it inline, so that it can send the data to a peer.
+May 18 11:55:02 <mcrha> chen, good
+May 18 11:55:13 <chen> pohly, will check it up, i had been thinking,
+May 18 11:55:21 <chen> we always have it as a uri
+May 18 11:55:47 <mcrha> pohly, I guess chen misplaced it with attachments, which are as local uri, but photos are always inline
+May 18 11:56:01 <chen> pohly, hmm but it can form the vcard after its gets the data from eds isn it ?
+May 18 11:56:37 <mcrha> attachments in calendar, photos in contacts, it is
+May 18 11:56:38 <pohly> chen: for that it has to know about this feature. Right now it takes the PHOTO property as it is, without translating between files and inline data.
+May 18 11:56:57 <pohly> My own thoughts on photo are here: http://wiki.meego.com/Architecture/planning/evolution-data-server/eds-improvements#contacts:_store_PHOTO_data_as_plain_files
+May 18 11:57:25 <chen> pohly, will read through it
+May 18 11:57:47 <chen> calendar am sure stores all the attachments as uri;s
+May 18 11:57:53 <pohly> We hope that Openismus will be able to work on this soon. Expect them to show up evo-hackers with a more specific proposal.
+May 18 11:57:55 <chen> need to check on contacts
+May 18 11:58:08 <chen> pohly, cool
+May 18 11:58:24 <chen> pohly, so would the need be that photo,
+May 18 11:58:31 <chen> be stored in the vcard itself ?
+May 18 11:58:32 <pohly> chen: trust me, PHOTOs are traditionally stored inline.
+May 18 11:58:42 <chen> ok
+May 18 11:59:01 * dave_largo (~drichard rrcs-24-73-120-180 se biz rr com) has joined #evolution-meet
+May 18 11:59:09 <chen> mcrha, looks like we have a requirement :)
+May 18 11:59:10 <dave_largo> jpunit: ! :)
+May 18 11:59:15 <pohly> The goal is to not have PHOTO data inside the vCard. That way only the link to a file needs to go through D-Bus and into the vCard.
+May 18 11:59:17 <chen> hey dave_largo
+May 18 11:59:28 <dave_largo> hey guys, back from lunch
+May 18 11:59:56 <mcrha> chen, pohly, yup, makes sense
+May 18 11:59:57 <pohly> Obviously this is again an optimization which only makes sense if the backend is really local...
+May 18 11:59:57 <chen> pohly, ah ok, thats the way i assumed it would work, if it does not work that way, will make changes,
+May 18 12:00:03 <chen> fine ?
+May 18 12:00:32 <chen> prolly we could discuss on e-h and make a call..
+May 18 12:00:36 * vibs has quit (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer))
+May 18 12:00:48 <chen> will inititate a thread on the same after reading through,
+May 18 12:00:52 <chen> pohly's link
+May 18 12:01:33 <chen> moving on with individual updates,
+May 18 12:01:37 <chen> abharath, updates..
+May 18 12:01:42 <jpunit> Hi dave_largo
+May 18 12:02:05 <chen> mcrha, thanks for bringing this up :), i would have surely missed it..
+May 18 12:02:37 <abharath> hey chen, mostly on downstream issues for now. Most of them Exchange 2003 related. I and jpunit would be upstreaming the pending patches soon
+May 18 12:02:39 * mcrha is happy to be useful
+May 18 12:02:44 <chen> mcrha, :)
+May 18 12:02:54 <chen> abharath, thanks!
+May 18 12:03:12 <chen> kov, andre_ dave_largo anything to share ?
+May 18 12:03:30 <dave_largo> nothing here, except that jpunit is my new best friend :)
+May 18 12:03:36 <abharath> :)
+May 18 12:03:37 <chen> hehe
+May 18 12:03:48 <andre_> nothing new here - I want to work on the user docs rewrite but not much time
+May 18 12:03:49 <andre_> Progress on relicensing of the old manual would be welcome though, dear Novell. :-P
+May 18 12:03:58 <jpunit> hehe..
+May 18 12:04:03 <chen> oops i forgot to update
+May 18 12:04:14 <chen> andre_, have got the approval from the team
+May 18 12:04:24 <chen> andre_, we can go ahead with re-licencing
+May 18 12:04:37 <chen> andre_, do you want me to do it ?
+May 18 12:04:49 * vibs (~yvibha 122 178 201 130) has joined #evolution-meet
+May 18 12:04:55 <chen> Fridrich, anything to share?
+May 18 12:05:01 <andre_> chen, go, go, go! :-*
+May 18 12:05:12 <chen> andre_, ok :)
+May 18 12:05:19 <chen> jpunit, updates?
+May 18 12:05:49 <chen> knirav, anything to share?
+May 18 12:05:55 <knirav> Chen, Nothing from my side
+May 18 12:06:05 <chen> lakhil, updates?
+May 18 12:06:06 <jpunit> Hi, I was working mostly on customer issues. Mostly on exchange and dave_largo's issue also..
+May 18 12:06:12 <lakhil> andre_, will you merge new manual in master just after licensing ?
+May 18 12:06:28 <lakhil> chen, besides downstream customer issues and testing, did some testing on master for evolution-groupwise changes, moved respective bugs out of evolution and eds to new product.
+May 18 12:06:30 <Fridrich> chen: I don't share anything, but you can share with me
+May 18 12:06:34 <andre_> lakhil, no
+May 18 12:06:45 <chen> Fridrich, :)
+May 18 12:06:52 <andre_> it will be merged when it is in an acceptable state. and that will take a few more weeks/months
+May 18 12:06:56 <andre_> maybe around August
+May 18 12:07:02 <chen> jpunit, lakhil thanks!
+May 18 12:07:11 <lakhil> andre_, okies
+May 18 12:07:16 <chen> mbarnes, updates?
+May 18 12:07:19 <mbarnes> past month:
+May 18 12:07:19 <mbarnes> talked with davidz about evo integration with gnome online accounts
+May 18 12:07:19 <mbarnes> talked with alexl about the new libfolks-based contacts app for gnome3
+May 18 12:07:19 <mbarnes> (will post more concrete info about these projects when I know more)
+May 18 12:07:19 <mbarnes> simplified mail folder URI handling in evo
+May 18 12:07:19 <mbarnes> and picking at the account-mgmt branch in the background. still targeting 3.2.
+May 18 12:07:48 <chen> mbarnes, thanks!!
+May 18 12:08:21 <chen> mbarnes, anything related to presence indication with evo ?
+May 18 12:08:44 <chen> w.r.t libfolks..
+May 18 12:08:48 <chen> mcrha, updates?
+May 18 12:08:57 <mbarnes> yes, alex has quite a few mockups of libfolks integration
+May 18 12:09:05 <mcrha> as mentioned earlier, finishing changes in eclient branch before merging. Otherwise touched few bugs, but really only few
+May 18 12:09:08 <chen> nice!
+May 18 12:09:19 <chen> mcrha, thanks!
+May 18 12:09:25 <chen> pohly, updates?
+May 18 12:10:05 <chen> rgs, anything to share?
+May 18 12:10:44 <chen> seanius, updates ?
+May 18 12:11:14 <chen> vibs, updates?
+May 18 12:11:30 <dave_largo> chen, any progress on getting EDS to dump to bug-buddy?
+May 18 12:11:35 <rgs> chen: a couple of updates coming through to improve introspection support!
+May 18 12:11:45 <chen> rgs, thanks!
+May 18 12:11:56 <rgs> chen: i am working right now on rebasing libfolks e-d-s backend, that should hit the light soon
+May 18 12:12:14 <chen> dave_largo, no idea..
+May 18 12:12:36 <chen> dave_largo, maybe knirav might know..
+May 18 12:13:10 <dave_largo> If someone figures out how to make that happen, that should go back into the community project for sure.
+May 18 12:13:15 <dave_largo> we are losing tons of information when it crashes
+May 18 12:13:17 <knirav> dave_largo, we will need to look into it.That would be our focus once the meeting appearing in task is resolved
+May 18 12:13:18 <chen> rgs, ah nice, sharing contacts between empathy and eds ?
+May 18 12:13:27 <dave_largo> fair enough
+May 18 12:13:37 <rgs> chen: yes, contact aggregation
+May 18 12:13:41 <chen> nice!
+May 18 12:13:42 <seanius> chen: not beuond what we discussed earlier
+May 18 12:14:09 <chen> seanius, will get the patches in tomorrow..
+May 18 12:14:20 <rgs> chen: hopefully i'll have something useful for Alex by the end of this week so he can integrate with the work he is doing
+May 18 12:14:34 <chen> rgs, cool
+May 18 12:14:38 <jpunit> chen: vibs's internet connection got disconnected, she said me to update here.. last week she worked on evolution-groupwise, some customer bugs and some upstream bugs as well.
+May 18 12:14:55 <chen> jpunit, thanks!
+May 18 12:14:57 * vibs has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds)
+May 18 12:15:02 <mcrha> dave_largo, if I recall correctly then bug-buddy is working automatically for gtk+ application, thus initializing gtk+ in eds main() may do the trick. The problem is that the server should be able to run withouth X too.
+May 18 12:15:24 <dave_largo> knirav: ^^
+May 18 12:15:25 <chen> vibs will also be working on write support for ews personal address-book..
+May 18 12:15:48 * vibs (~yvibha 122 178 234 76) has joined #evolution-meet
+May 18 12:16:09 <dave_largo> So it needs to check if it's headless and then only initialize gtk+ if there is an Xserver
+May 18 12:16:13 <chen> vibs, punit has provided updates on ur behalf (if ur still connected) :)
+May 18 12:16:23 <vibs> hey hiii, yupp
+May 18 12:16:31 <vibs> now m connected
+May 18 12:16:35 <chen> :)
+May 18 12:16:37 <mcrha> dave_largo, I would try gtk_init_check() and just ignore the result, (or print on console) in the main() just after g_type_init() call or near that place
+May 18 12:17:22 <vibs> yes for past few weeks, I have worked on certain customer issues, and a few upstream bugs, and focused on evolution-groupwise package.
+May 18 12:17:52 <chen> vibs, thanks and i just updated that u will also be working on write support for ews personal address-book..
+May 18 12:18:09 <chen> dave_largo, jpunit can prolly make that patch for u..
+May 18 12:18:12 <vibs> yes :)
+May 18 12:18:23 <chen> knirav, ^^
+May 18 12:18:37 <dave_largo> If we can get crash dumps from EDS, that will be a HUGE issue for stability
+May 18 12:18:49 <dave_largo> I believe that it's just a few nagging crashers
+May 18 12:18:55 <knirav> dave_largo,point taken
+May 18 12:19:21 <chen> anything else from anyone before we wind up?
+May 18 12:20:34 <chen> Lets then meet next month with more excitement awaited in master :)
+May 18 12:20:38 <chen> thanks everyone!
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