[gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution IRC meeting log for 2010-09-15.
- From: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes src gnome org>
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- Subject: [gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution IRC meeting log for 2010-09-15.
- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:00 +0000 (UTC)
commit 36263d26a3765ad97d5cc66f5e174c5f37a1468e
Author: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
Date: Wed Sep 15 13:26:29 2010 -0400
Add Evolution IRC meeting log for 2010-09-15.
projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml | 4 +-
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-09-15.shtml | 312 ++++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-09-15.txt | 297 +++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/Makefile.am | 1 +
projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml | 5 +-
5 files changed, 615 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
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diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
index f973628..575d9c0 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
@@ -71,6 +71,7 @@
<div class="split-half">
<ul>
+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-09-15.shtml">2010-09-15</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-08-18.shtml">2010-08-18</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml">2010-07-14</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-06-16.shtml">2010-06-16</a></li>
@@ -84,7 +85,6 @@
<li>2010-03-17 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-03-10.shtml">2010-03-10</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-03-03.shtml">2010-03-03</a></li>
- <li>2010-02-24 (no meeting)</li>
</ul>
<div style="clear:both;"> </div>
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@
<div class="split-half">
<ul>
+ <li>2010-02-24 (no meeting)</li>
<li>2010-02-17 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-02-10.shtml">2010-02-10</a></li>
<li>2010-02-03 (no meeting)</li>
@@ -106,7 +107,6 @@
<li>2009-12-09 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-12-02.shtml">2009-12-02</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-11-25.shtml">2009-11-25</a></li>
- <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-11-19.shtml">2009-11-19</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-09-15.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-09-15.shtml
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..ea6e18b
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+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-09-15.shtml
@@ -0,0 +1,312 @@
+<!--#set var="title" value="IRC Team Meeting - September 15, 2010"-->
+<!--#set var="section" value="developer"-->
+<!--#include virtual="../head.shtml"-->
+
+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - September 15, 2010</h1>
+<div class="irclog">
+<p id="tSep 15 11:33:27" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:33:27" class="time">Sep 15 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Lets get started!</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:33:53" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:33:53" class="time">Sep 15 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Starting with project updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:34:09" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:34:09" class="time">Sep 15 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">We just had the 2.32.92 release this monday and 2.32.0 release is on Sep 27</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:34:35" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:34:35" class="time">Sep 15 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">master branch is void of all freezes and absorbing commits already</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:34:46" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:34:46" class="time">Sep 15 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, 2.31.92 :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:34:53" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:34:53" class="time">Sep 15 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes had formed the planning page</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:34:59" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:34:59" class="time">Sep 15 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">oops sorry :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:35:07" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:35:07" class="time">Sep 15 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning234";>http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning234</a> for 2.34 release</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:35:18" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:35:18" class="time">Sep 15 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and i have added some contents there</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:35:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:35:39" class="time">Sep 15 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">please feel free to add if there is anything more to be included or modified</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:36:00" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:36:00" class="time">Sep 15 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/MergeExpress";>http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/MergeExpress</a> has some features listed from express mode,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:36:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:36:08" class="time">Sep 15 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">that has to be merged with the base evolution</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:36:46" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:36:46" class="time">Sep 15 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">It also collects some low hanging fruits like good UI changes which could be made,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:37:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:37:08" class="time">Sep 15 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">to improve the user experience, please add more of those which would improve the initial user experience</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:37:28" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:37:28" class="time">Sep 15 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">though we have many customizations, some of our defaults seems to be bad</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:37:46" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:37:46" class="time">Sep 15 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">just picked them up based on some blogs and conversatino with jony </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:38:10" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:38:10" class="time">Sep 15 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/EWS";>http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/EWS</a> has more detailed plan on what we need,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:38:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:38:32" class="time">Sep 15 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">to do for making EWS better </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:38:51" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:38:51" class="time">Sep 15 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">realizing from the learning which we have had from other providers</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:10" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:10" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">it would require more api additions which we are yet to mention there</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:31" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:31" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: would be awesome if we can move to gnome git.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:38" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">All these links above are in the process of construction, please edit them</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:40" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:40" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">will there be the merge of ema and eex (and a new ews) to one product, or is it still opened question?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:47" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jony, right</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:48" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:48" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">jony: +1</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:39:52" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:39:52" class="time">Sep 15 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, do you want to do that?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:08" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">chen: yup planning on that once I have a little more work pushed in</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:14" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:14" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, do we want to merge them ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:20" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:20" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">mcrha: you mean just keep source code together .. or actually merge ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:29" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:29" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, that's about your proposal of evoluton-collab, isn't it?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:35" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:35" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, it can be started parallely isn it?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:50" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:50" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">chen: yeah sure. will initiate that this week</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:55" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:55" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">abharath: you can push the same history into gnome git.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:58" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, need to get a green from everyone on that</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:40:59" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:40:59" class="time">Sep 15 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">hi jony, yup, just sources in one pack</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:41:11" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:41:11" class="time">Sep 15 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, it not only includes ex related stuff </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:41:17" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:41:17" class="time">Sep 15 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">mcrha: ah. makes sense .. atleast distro would have lesser packages to build .</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:41:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:41:21" class="time">Sep 15 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">also kolab and other colloborative providers</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:41:33" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:41:33" class="time">Sep 15 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, what do you think on that?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:41:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:41:43" class="time">Sep 15 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, yup, I know, gw and kolab, and... it has some advantages, apart of disadvantages I mentioned couple weeks ago</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:41:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:41:47" class="time">Sep 15 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">we need to have a concensus between all of us while doing that</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:42:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:42:08" class="time">Sep 15 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, iirc the disadvantage mentioned was,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:42:22" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:42:22" class="time">Sep 15 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: mcrha also we have to think about distributions on this . eg : package upgrades and all that . </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:42:24" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:42:24" class="time">Sep 15 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">that some providers might have to be pruned later due to in-activity ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:42:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:42:58" class="time">Sep 15 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jony, it would be much more easier if there is one package for all collab-providers for distros also isn it ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:43:29" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:43:29" class="time">Sep 15 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, would be good if you mention the disadvantage once again. sorry am not able to recollect</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:43:35" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:43:35" class="time">Sep 15 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: yup. but when we change the name, distros might have trouble upgrading .. </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:43:47" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:43:47" class="time">Sep 15 11:43</a> *mcrha is not sure of chen's "pruned later" :)</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:43:52" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:43:52" class="time">Sep 15 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: we would have to talk to them bit on how and when they want this .. </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:10" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:10" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">(just putting a thought. nothing else )</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:13" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:13" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, i don remember, thats the fact. better if you tell it again :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:23" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:23" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jony, right agree</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:39" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, I think it was nothing interesting, just some how-to-work with it and within bugzilla, as more components or some special tags per provider there</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:42" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:42" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I worry it confuses ownership rights. not all third-party authors may wish to join the collective</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:43" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jony, even bugzilla might need some change ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:52" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:52" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">and also adds burden on us to keep their code building</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:44:57" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:44:57" class="time">Sep 15 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: yup.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:45:19" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:45:19" class="time">Sep 15 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, we could have config options to build ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:45:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:45:21" class="time">Sep 15 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: configure switch would suffice ? </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:45:57" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:45:57" class="time">Sep 15 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I suppose</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:46:06" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:46:06" class="time">Sep 15 11:46</a> *mcrha recalls chen talking about "keep their code runnig" as an advantage ;)</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:46:15" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:46:15" class="time">Sep 15 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mcrha: :D</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:46:34" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:46:34" class="time">Sep 15 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, yes we could compile optionally while do api additions or changes</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:46:51" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:46:51" class="time">Sep 15 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">of-course i definetly still see good value in that</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:46:54" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:46:54" class="time">Sep 15 11:46</a> *jony is split on this . couldn't make up his mind.</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:47:15" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:47:15" class="time">Sep 15 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">we could start slow, like eex + ema + ews + gw. And add only when really sure of the project</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:47:36" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:47:36" class="time">Sep 15 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, we could let kolab people decide on when they want to merge</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:47:52" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:47:52" class="time">Sep 15 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">when or if? is this opt-in or required?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:48:03" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:48:03" class="time">Sep 15 11:48</a> *nicoe (~nicoe apijab1 apinc org) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:48:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:48:08" class="time">Sep 15 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, say if the kolab people still contribute, there might be more contributions coming on other areas as well,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:48:24" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:48:24" class="time">Sep 15 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">which is far optimistic and cannot be predicted :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:48:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:48:49" class="time">Sep 15 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, could not get ur question</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:49:01" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:49:01" class="time">Sep 15 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, do you mean they will be changing also other parts, like eex?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:49:16" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:49:16" class="time">Sep 15 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, maybe it can happen</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:49:44" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:49:44" class="time">Sep 15 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, mbarnes, I would say 'when', because if I recall correctly they have in contract to publish their code in upstream</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:49:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:49:47" class="time">Sep 15 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, through just a feeling of one community</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:50:18" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:50:18" class="time">Sep 15 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, you can do it right now too, there is no ACL in gnome's git ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:50:27" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:50:27" class="time">Sep 15 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, there want their code to be in upstream, atleast from my understanding </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:50:44" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:50:44" class="time">Sep 15 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">chen: I'm asking what if they prefer to keep their project separate?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:50:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:50:49" class="time">Sep 15 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, we have a some discussion on #evo tomorrow on their sub-classing in imapx</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:50:51" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:50:51" class="time">Sep 15 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yup, that's my understanding too</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:50:56" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:50:56" class="time">Sep 15 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">cooly, for example, may wish to keep evolution-rss under his own control</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:51:11" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:51:11" class="time">Sep 15 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, there more inclined in merging it into our project</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:51:27" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:51:27" class="time">Sep 15 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, i can confirm it once again while discussing tomorrow on the query on subclassing</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:51:33" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:51:33" class="time">Sep 15 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and adding extensions to imapx</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:52:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:52:08" class="time">Sep 15 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, its going to happen at 4:00 pm IST tomorrow</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:52:25" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:52:25" class="time">Sep 15 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">hmm. I'm still -0 on the idea but I won't stand in the way if that's the consensus</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:52:37" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:52:37" class="time">Sep 15 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">there wouldn't be any force to merge. And I understood chen's proposal for providers supporting all parts of evo, mail/cal/addressbook only</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:52:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:52:58" class="time">Sep 15 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, right</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:53:18" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:53:18" class="time">Sep 15 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, others like imapx or caldav can stay the way they are</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:53:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:53:47" class="time">Sep 15 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, chen, I'm still not much on the pro-side, I just wanna bring this up, as it's a good time, beginning of hunting season</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:54:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:54:32" class="time">Sep 15 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yup, those are placed very well ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:54:33" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:54:33" class="time">Sep 15 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">shall i inquire on it with packagers as jony suggested ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:55:05" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:55:05" class="time">Sep 15 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and then based on that, we can inquire about handling bugzilla, translations etc.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:55:26" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:55:26" class="time">Sep 15 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">I would start with a team, maybe through evo hackers, and then bother packagers, if we all agree with good points on the merging</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:55:34" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:55:34" class="time">Sep 15 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: bugzilla is minor, imho. you can do bulk changes .</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:55:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:55:47" class="time">Sep 15 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: send out a mail on evolution-hackers ? </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:55:58" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:55:58" class="time">Sep 15 11:55</a> *dave_largo (~drichard 207 22 154 8) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:03" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:03" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, jony ok I will start with that in that case</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:10" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:10" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and try to include packagers there as well</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:15" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:15" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">cool.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:21" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">good</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:21" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">i just know seb and opensuse packaging team,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:26" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:26" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">anyone else to include ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:30" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:30" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">hey dave_largo </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:37" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:37" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">chen, please merge PDF drop and drag before the patch is too old :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:41" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:41" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> *mcrha hopes chen knows also fedora packages ;)</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:56:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:56:49" class="time">Sep 15 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">mcrha: :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:07" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:07" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, ah yes. thanks for remidning. i needs to add to taks list without forgetting now</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:20" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:20" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> *EvaSDK (~eva nsg93-9-78-225-4-220 fbx proxad net) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:21" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, mbarnes or u ? :D</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:27" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:27" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">or is there anyone else?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:34" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:34" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">we both ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:38" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:57:54" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:57:54" class="time">Sep 15 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Moving on,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:04" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:04" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">i guess lakhil had some agenda to discuss..</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:12" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:12" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> *chen leaves the floor to lakhil </p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:23" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:23" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">(moving on to lakhil)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:32" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:32" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> *abharath stares at the floor :D</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:38" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, around ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:45" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:45" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> *jony waits with reverence .. </p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:57" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:57" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">i just want to know the opinion about bug day as we did just after 2.30 release</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:58:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:58:58" class="time">Sep 15 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">looks like he has taken a break ? :D</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:59:04" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:59:04" class="time">Sep 15 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">he's right there :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 11:59:45" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 11:59:45" class="time">Sep 15 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, do you want to know specific dates to have which is suitable for everyone ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:06" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:06" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> *dave_largo is excited to hear what vibs is working on :D</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:17" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:17" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, maybe you could suggest and we can say yes or no ? :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:22" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:22" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">first point - are we all ready for bug day ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:24" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:24" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:32" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">dave_largo: ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:34" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:34" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, +1</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:47" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen: lakhil : hopefully not a wednesday / thursdays. /me has hectic schedule </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:00:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:00:49" class="time">Sep 15 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">we can plan in another 15 days once people are ready</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:01:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:01:38" class="time">Sep 15 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">this month is a good time for me -- downstream work has quieted down for the moment</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:01:51" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:01:51" class="time">Sep 15 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">ok, sounds good</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:02:11" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:02:11" class="time">Sep 15 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">i can pitch in wherever i can .. </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:02:16" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:02:16" class="time">Sep 15 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, I guess we have reached a concensus</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:02:35" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:02:35" class="time">Sep 15 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, do you want to suggest any dates now, while you can make the plan during the mid time?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:02:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:02:38" class="time">Sep 15 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">i think then we can plan for 1 or 2 day in last week of this month</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:03:13" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:03:13" class="time">Sep 15 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, 28 or oct 1st ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:03:14" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:03:14" class="time">Sep 15 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">lakhil: sounds good</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:03:28" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:03:28" class="time">Sep 15 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">skipped the monday :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:03:40" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:03:40" class="time">Sep 15 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">28 = tuesday, 1st = Friday</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:03:44" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:03:44" class="time">Sep 15 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, yeah sept 30 - oct 1 if we plan for 2 days</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:04:20" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:04:20" class="time">Sep 15 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">are we going with 2 days ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:04:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:04:21" class="time">Sep 15 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">till then packages of evolution 2.32.0 may be available in distro</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:04:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:04:39" class="time">Sep 15 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">right</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:04:59" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:04:59" class="time">Sep 15 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, last time i felt if we have 2 days, it gives liberty to opt for one day at least</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:05:15" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:05:15" class="time">Sep 15 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">if there is any last moment work comes up for anyone</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:05:19" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:05:19" class="time">Sep 15 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">yep. whenever people get free, they can chip in</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:05:22" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:05:22" class="time">Sep 15 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">it wouldn't be bad to have a break between those two days, as it's sometimes boring to read old bug reports.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:05:30" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:05:30" class="time">Sep 15 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mcrha: :D</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:05:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:05:49" class="time">Sep 15 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">mcrha, you can fix bugs mean while and then come back for traiging again</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:05:57" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:05:57" class="time">Sep 15 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">heh</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:07" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:07" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">oh, is there a different between those two tasks? ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:09" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:09" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">cool, i think we have reached a concensus here as well :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:18" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:18" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">mcrha, problem with two separate days is to keep flow :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:28" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:28" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">2 days spread across while people can take breaks :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:36" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:36" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">with some other work as well</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:37" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:37" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">mcrha: "sometimes"? ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:51" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:51" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> *mcrha takes a note about "mouse-click-flow"</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:06:55" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:06:55" class="time">Sep 15 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">oh boy! i miss this team already !</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:00" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:00" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">hehe</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:23" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:23" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">so Sept 30 and Oct 1. sounds good for bug day ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:31" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:31" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">lakhil: bug days :P</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:35" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:35" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">+1</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:43" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">abharath, if you appear for 2 days ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:45" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:45" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">definitely there might not be much difference, as the result is always the same, beat the gtk and be below it with total opened bugs</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:59" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:59" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">lakhil: naa you can take my word, I'll disappear as usual :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:07:59" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:07:59" class="time">Sep 15 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">mcrha, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:22" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:22" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> *mcrha is fine with date</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:25" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:25" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">chen: lakhil abharath Email on the way</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:27" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:27" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> *mbarnes to</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:30" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:30" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">too</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:31" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:31" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> *jony afk - would catch up with logs (off to writing some obj-c)</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:43" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, and we can then expect the plan during next week ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:44" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:44" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">lakhil, just remind me I should pick bugs from other basket those days</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:08:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:08:58" class="time">Sep 15 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">jony: I'll post the log promptly for a change</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:09:01" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:09:01" class="time">Sep 15 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:09:22" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:09:22" class="time">Sep 15 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><jony></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: thanks ! :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:09:24" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:09:24" class="time">Sep 15 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">mcrha, i will make sure you have maximum bugs :-P</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:09:36" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:09:36" class="time">Sep 15 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Anything else to be discussed from anyone before moving on with individual updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:09:42" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:09:42" class="time">Sep 15 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">oh, not that way, please not that way, lakhil ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:09:54" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:09:54" class="time">Sep 15 12:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">hehe</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:10:27" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:10:27" class="time">Sep 15 12:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">starting with update from my side,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:10:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:10:58" class="time">Sep 15 12:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">reviewed and consumed the GSoc patches upstream, it was certanily a risk, agree with mcrha..</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:11:14" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:11:14" class="time">Sep 15 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and some fixes on groupwise calendaring to make it usable</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:11:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:11:38" class="time">Sep 15 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">will be starting with maildir from tomorrow and then with some imapx fixes</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:11:42" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:11:42" class="time">Sep 15 12:11</a> *jpunit1 has quit (Leaving.)</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:11:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:11:49" class="time">Sep 15 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">and joining with abharath with a bit if ews</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:11:56" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:11:56" class="time">Sep 15 12:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">thats it from my side</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:12:00" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:12:00" class="time">Sep 15 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:12:38" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:12:38" class="time">Sep 15 12:12</a> *jpunit1 (~novell 59 164 190 199) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:12:41" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:12:41" class="time">Sep 15 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">Bug fixing for master. Committed all of the downstream bugs to master.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:12:55" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:12:55" class="time">Sep 15 12:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, thanks!</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:01" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:01" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">chen: is this mbox->maildir as the local cache format?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:02" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:02" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:08" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">The evo-mapi branching done, and still waiting for openchange 0.10 to release. Mcha has made sure the code we have works for 0.9 as well as master. So maybe we can still bump it if it can be done before 2.32 release? No changes to the code needed I suppose.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:10" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:10" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, yes</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:23" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:23" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">I'd like to see all the leaks that you guys plugged ported to SLED 11 if possible</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:47" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">So I can do some valgrind work here and not duplicate efforts.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:54" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:54" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">we have some users that are really chewing up lots of memory</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:13:56" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:13:56" class="time">Sep 15 12:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, fine, we will port the relevant ones..</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:08" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">abharath, mcrha: did the openchange guys ever agree to a 0.9.1 release?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:09" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:09" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">abharath, not for 2.32, it's too late for distros to include oc 0.10, I believe</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:20" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:20" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, please raise a bug on the same so that its not missed..</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:29" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:29" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, I thought so, but then they decided to do a full release</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:39" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">huh. okay</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:42" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:42" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">chen, ok</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:44" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:44" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: yes they did, but we decided to wait for 0.10 which didn't come out on time</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:45" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:45" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">I'd also like to initiate some ideas for a recurring free/busy search</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:14:53" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:14:53" class="time">Sep 15 12:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">Maybe that now goes to vibs?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:15:34" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:15:34" class="time">Sep 15 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">dave_largo, maybe bugs in bgo or SR's plz :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:15:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:15:47" class="time">Sep 15 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">It's not really a bug, it's anew feature.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:15:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:15:49" class="time">Sep 15 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:15:51" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:15:51" class="time">Sep 15 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">EvaSDK, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:15:55" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:15:55" class="time">Sep 15 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">but ok, I'll start it there</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:15:56" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:15:56" class="time">Sep 15 12:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">hi dave_largo, I hope you use G_SLICE=always-malloc when valgrinding, do you? you may consider it, as it's better with it.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:16:24" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:16:24" class="time">Sep 15 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">mcrha: I wasn't going to heavily valgrind until my leaks are caught up to the work you guys did</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:16:37" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:16:37" class="time">Sep 15 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">makes sense</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:16:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:16:43" class="time">Sep 15 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, can the dependency version of openchange be bimped now?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:16:44" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:16:44" class="time">Sep 15 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><dave_largo></span> <span class="text">evolution-data-server seems to leak with Groupwise proxies</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:16:55" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:16:55" class="time">Sep 15 12:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">am not sure</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:17:10" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:17:10" class="time">Sep 15 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jony, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:17:12" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:17:12" class="time">Sep 15 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">chen: to... 0.10?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:17:18" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:17:18" class="time">Sep 15 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, yes</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:17:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:17:32" class="time">Sep 15 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">openchange meeting logs - <a href="http://tracker.openchange.org/projects/openchange/wiki/Meeting_of_2010-07-30";>http://tracker.openchange.org/projects/openchange/wiki/Meeting_of_2010-07-30</a></span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:17:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:17:38" class="time">Sep 15 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, say if 0.10 is released</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:17:42" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:17:42" class="time">Sep 15 12:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">before 2.32 release</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:04" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:04" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">just wondering if there is any restriction or a freeze related to that</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:25" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:25" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">there are PAI changes, and it depends on latest samba4 and frankly, latest samba4 is a disaster</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:31" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:31" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">*API</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:32" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">i hope jpunit1 is not there atm</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:32" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">chen: I'm pretty sure dependencies would be frozen at this point</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:36" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:36" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">kov, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:18:57" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:18:57" class="time">Sep 15 12:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><jpunit1></span> <span class="text">chen: i am .. got disconnected for a while</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:19:11" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:19:11" class="time">Sep 15 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">abharath, maybe then you would have to consider for 2.32.1 or something and need to inquire with release team or in the wiki</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:19:25" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:19:25" class="time">Sep 15 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit1, go on with ur updates :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:19:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:19:39" class="time">Sep 15 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><jpunit1></span> <span class="text">Currently working on some mapi bugs and fixed some GW bugs also ..</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:19:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:19:43" class="time">Sep 15 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">chen: okay will ping them on it</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:19:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:19:49" class="time">Sep 15 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">jpunit1, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:19:54" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:19:54" class="time">Sep 15 12:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:21" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:21" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">sanity of dot releases, tested basic functionality of all major back ends before 2.31.92 release, prepared list of important bugs for 2.32 and shared with team and bug triaging as usual</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:37" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:37" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">lakhil, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:39" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, there are two things of samba4, which are quite bad: a) they change locale to "C" always, thus for example sorting in folder tree changes (I didn't try with localization); b) it has its own krb5 implementation, which has same function names with my system krb5, and they interleave, somehow, which leads to crashes</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:42" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:42" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:50" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:50" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">importer rewrite is about half-way done</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:50" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:50" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">so far this week I took a break from that and hacked on Camel's API</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:20:50" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:20:50" class="time">Sep 15 12:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">after the importer rewrite is done I'll start in on GSettings</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:21:39" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:21:39" class="time">Sep 15 12:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, nice, i have some doubts with,</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:21:47" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:21:47" class="time">Sep 15 12:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">cameloperation to GCancellable</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:22:08" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:22:08" class="time">Sep 15 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, are we improving the handling of cancellation by any way?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:22:20" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:22:20" class="time">Sep 15 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">chen: catch me after the meeting on that</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:22:43" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:22:43" class="time">Sep 15 12:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, sure, will mail you in detail</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:22:46" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:22:46" class="time">Sep 15 12:22</a> *jpunit1 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:23:01" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:23:01" class="time">Sep 15 12:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">i had a problem with cancelling specific requests from imapx</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:23:09" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:23:09" class="time">Sep 15 12:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, ok</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:23:19" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:23:19" class="time">Sep 15 12:23</a> *jpunit1 (~novell 59 164 190 199) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:23:27" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:23:27" class="time">Sep 15 12:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, does updating to 0.10 solve it in any way?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:23:49" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:23:49" class="time">Sep 15 12:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, it's in samba4, not in openchange</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:23:50" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:23:50" class="time">Sep 15 12:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, its a naive question, as am not sure if version of samba changes</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:24:04" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:24:04" class="time">Sep 15 12:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, ok</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:24:06" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:24:06" class="time">Sep 15 12:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">yup, newest openchange depends on samba4 git</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:24:17" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:24:17" class="time">Sep 15 12:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">ah ok</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:24:53" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:24:53" class="time">Sep 15 12:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, then it may not be a good choice now to depend on 0.10 before we sort out a solution for those?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:09" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:09" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">maybe rather before they solve it ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:20" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:20" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:28" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:28" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mcrha: :D</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:30" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:30" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:32" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">and it might be that the ews will be in better shape than ema when it'll happen ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:38" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:38" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">updates: couple Dave's memory leak bugs, then few lakhil's critical warnings bugs, which actually discovered some false-positives and some valid bugs too.</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:54" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:54" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:25:59" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:25:59" class="time">Sep 15 12:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">nicoe, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:26:15" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:26:15" class="time">Sep 15 12:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:26:32" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:26:32" class="time">Sep 15 12:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><vibs></span> <span class="text">chen: yeah .... </span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:26:36" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:26:36" class="time">Sep 15 12:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><vibs></span> <span class="text">I worked mostly on groupwise related bugs and Got bugzilla right</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:26:39" class="action"><a href="#tSep 15 12:26:39" class="time">Sep 15 12:26</a> *mcrha is wondering what is vibs working on, as it makes dave_largo so happy</p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:26:58" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:26:58" class="time">Sep 15 12:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, got bugzilla right?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:05" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:05" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><abharath></span> <span class="text">mcrha: no points for guessing ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:14" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:14" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><vibs></span> <span class="text">chen: yeah</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:25" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:25" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, meaning?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:35" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:35" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">chen, rights ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:40" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:40" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">aha</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:45" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:45" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">though I got bugzilla right after few months too ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:27:45" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:27:45" class="time">Sep 15 12:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">:D</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:28:05" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:28:05" class="time">Sep 15 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">i thought she corrected something in bugzilla :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:28:18" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:28:18" class="time">Sep 15 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">what difference between right and rights :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:28:33" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:28:33" class="time">Sep 15 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:28:37" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:28:37" class="time">Sep 15 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><vibs></span> <span class="text">chen: sorry for that</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:28:41" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:28:41" class="time">Sep 15 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">anything else from anyone ?</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:28:48" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:28:48" class="time">Sep 15 12:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">bugzilla is always talking to me in strange words which noone can understand</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:29:17" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:29:17" class="time">Sep 15 12:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">vibs, np :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:29:19" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:29:19" class="time">Sep 15 12:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">mcrha, :)</span></p>
+<p id="tSep 15 12:30:00" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:30:00" class="time">Sep 15 12:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">vibs, didn't tell me what she is working on for dave_largo </span></p>
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+<p id="tSep 15 12:30:09" class="comment"><a href="#tSep 15 12:30:09" class="time">Sep 15 12:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><chen></span> <span class="text">Lets meet next month then and happy hacking/'shooting bugs' :)</span></p>
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+Sep 15 11:33:27 <chen> Lets get started!
+Sep 15 11:33:53 <chen> Starting with project updates,
+Sep 15 11:34:09 <chen> We just had the 2.32.92 release this monday and 2.32.0 release is on Sep 27
+Sep 15 11:34:35 <chen> master branch is void of all freezes and absorbing commits already
+Sep 15 11:34:46 <lakhil> chen, 2.31.92 :)
+Sep 15 11:34:53 <chen> mbarnes had formed the planning page
+Sep 15 11:34:59 <chen> oops sorry :)
+Sep 15 11:35:07 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/Planning234 for 2.34 release
+Sep 15 11:35:18 <chen> and i have added some contents there
+Sep 15 11:35:39 <chen> please feel free to add if there is anything more to be included or modified
+Sep 15 11:36:00 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/MergeExpress has some features listed from express mode,
+Sep 15 11:36:08 <chen> that has to be merged with the base evolution
+Sep 15 11:36:46 <chen> It also collects some low hanging fruits like good UI changes which could be made,
+Sep 15 11:37:08 <chen> to improve the user experience, please add more of those which would improve the initial user experience
+Sep 15 11:37:28 <chen> though we have many customizations, some of our defaults seems to be bad
+Sep 15 11:37:46 <chen> just picked them up based on some blogs and conversatino with jony
+Sep 15 11:38:10 <chen> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/EWS has more detailed plan on what we need,
+Sep 15 11:38:32 <chen> to do for making EWS better
+Sep 15 11:38:51 <chen> realizing from the learning which we have had from other providers
+Sep 15 11:39:10 <chen> it would require more api additions which we are yet to mention there
+Sep 15 11:39:31 <jony> chen: would be awesome if we can move to gnome git.
+Sep 15 11:39:38 <chen> All these links above are in the process of construction, please edit them
+Sep 15 11:39:40 <mcrha> will there be the merge of ema and eex (and a new ews) to one product, or is it still opened question?
+Sep 15 11:39:47 <chen> jony, right
+Sep 15 11:39:48 <abharath> jony: +1
+Sep 15 11:39:52 <chen> abharath, do you want to do that?
+Sep 15 11:40:08 <abharath> chen: yup planning on that once I have a little more work pushed in
+Sep 15 11:40:14 <chen> mcrha, do we want to merge them ?
+Sep 15 11:40:20 <jony> mcrha: you mean just keep source code together .. or actually merge ?
+Sep 15 11:40:29 <mcrha> chen, that's about your proposal of evoluton-collab, isn't it?
+Sep 15 11:40:35 <chen> abharath, it can be started parallely isn it?
+Sep 15 11:40:50 <abharath> chen: yeah sure. will initiate that this week
+Sep 15 11:40:55 <jony> abharath: you can push the same history into gnome git.
+Sep 15 11:40:58 <chen> mcrha, need to get a green from everyone on that
+Sep 15 11:40:59 <mcrha> hi jony, yup, just sources in one pack
+Sep 15 11:41:11 <chen> mcrha, it not only includes ex related stuff
+Sep 15 11:41:17 <jony> mcrha: ah. makes sense .. atleast distro would have lesser packages to build .
+Sep 15 11:41:21 <chen> also kolab and other colloborative providers
+Sep 15 11:41:33 <chen> mcrha, what do you think on that?
+Sep 15 11:41:43 <mcrha> chen, yup, I know, gw and kolab, and... it has some advantages, apart of disadvantages I mentioned couple weeks ago
+Sep 15 11:41:47 <chen> we need to have a concensus between all of us while doing that
+Sep 15 11:42:08 <chen> mcrha, iirc the disadvantage mentioned was,
+Sep 15 11:42:22 <jony> chen: mcrha also we have to think about distributions on this . eg : package upgrades and all that .
+Sep 15 11:42:24 <chen> that some providers might have to be pruned later due to in-activity ?
+Sep 15 11:42:58 <chen> jony, it would be much more easier if there is one package for all collab-providers for distros also isn it ?
+Sep 15 11:43:29 <chen> mcrha, would be good if you mention the disadvantage once again. sorry am not able to recollect
+Sep 15 11:43:35 <jony> chen: yup. but when we change the name, distros might have trouble upgrading ..
+Sep 15 11:43:47 * mcrha is not sure of chen's "pruned later" :)
+Sep 15 11:43:52 <jony> chen: we would have to talk to them bit on how and when they want this ..
+Sep 15 11:44:10 <jony> (just putting a thought. nothing else )
+Sep 15 11:44:13 <chen> mcrha, i don remember, thats the fact. better if you tell it again :)
+Sep 15 11:44:23 <chen> jony, right agree
+Sep 15 11:44:39 <mcrha> chen, I think it was nothing interesting, just some how-to-work with it and within bugzilla, as more components or some special tags per provider there
+Sep 15 11:44:42 <mbarnes> I worry it confuses ownership rights. not all third-party authors may wish to join the collective
+Sep 15 11:44:43 <chen> jony, even bugzilla might need some change ?
+Sep 15 11:44:52 <mbarnes> and also adds burden on us to keep their code building
+Sep 15 11:44:57 <jony> chen: yup.
+Sep 15 11:45:19 <chen> mbarnes, we could have config options to build ?
+Sep 15 11:45:21 <jony> mbarnes: configure switch would suffice ?
+Sep 15 11:45:57 <mbarnes> I suppose
+Sep 15 11:46:06 * mcrha recalls chen talking about "keep their code runnig" as an advantage ;)
+Sep 15 11:46:15 <abharath> mcrha: :D
+Sep 15 11:46:34 <chen> mcrha, yes we could compile optionally while do api additions or changes
+Sep 15 11:46:51 <chen> of-course i definetly still see good value in that
+Sep 15 11:46:54 * jony is split on this . couldn't make up his mind.
+Sep 15 11:47:15 <mcrha> we could start slow, like eex + ema + ews + gw. And add only when really sure of the project
+Sep 15 11:47:36 <chen> mcrha, we could let kolab people decide on when they want to merge
+Sep 15 11:47:52 <mbarnes> when or if? is this opt-in or required?
+Sep 15 11:48:03 * nicoe (~nicoe apijab1 apinc org) has joined #evolution-meet
+Sep 15 11:48:08 <chen> mcrha, say if the kolab people still contribute, there might be more contributions coming on other areas as well,
+Sep 15 11:48:24 <chen> which is far optimistic and cannot be predicted :)
+Sep 15 11:48:49 <chen> mbarnes, could not get ur question
+Sep 15 11:49:01 <mcrha> chen, do you mean they will be changing also other parts, like eex?
+Sep 15 11:49:16 <chen> mcrha, maybe it can happen
+Sep 15 11:49:44 <mcrha> chen, mbarnes, I would say 'when', because if I recall correctly they have in contract to publish their code in upstream
+Sep 15 11:49:47 <chen> mcrha, through just a feeling of one community
+Sep 15 11:50:18 <mcrha> chen, you can do it right now too, there is no ACL in gnome's git ;)
+Sep 15 11:50:27 <chen> mcrha, there want their code to be in upstream, atleast from my understanding
+Sep 15 11:50:44 <mbarnes> chen: I'm asking what if they prefer to keep their project separate?
+Sep 15 11:50:49 <chen> mcrha, we have a some discussion on #evo tomorrow on their sub-classing in imapx
+Sep 15 11:50:51 <mcrha> yup, that's my understanding too
+Sep 15 11:50:56 <mbarnes> cooly, for example, may wish to keep evolution-rss under his own control
+Sep 15 11:51:11 <chen> mbarnes, there more inclined in merging it into our project
+Sep 15 11:51:27 <chen> mbarnes, i can confirm it once again while discussing tomorrow on the query on subclassing
+Sep 15 11:51:33 <chen> and adding extensions to imapx
+Sep 15 11:52:08 <chen> mbarnes, its going to happen at 4:00 pm IST tomorrow
+Sep 15 11:52:25 <mbarnes> hmm. I'm still -0 on the idea but I won't stand in the way if that's the consensus
+Sep 15 11:52:37 <mcrha> there wouldn't be any force to merge. And I understood chen's proposal for providers supporting all parts of evo, mail/cal/addressbook only
+Sep 15 11:52:58 <chen> mcrha, right
+Sep 15 11:53:18 <chen> mcrha, others like imapx or caldav can stay the way they are
+Sep 15 11:53:47 <mcrha> mbarnes, chen, I'm still not much on the pro-side, I just wanna bring this up, as it's a good time, beginning of hunting season
+Sep 15 11:54:32 <mcrha> yup, those are placed very well ;)
+Sep 15 11:54:33 <chen> shall i inquire on it with packagers as jony suggested ?
+Sep 15 11:55:05 <chen> and then based on that, we can inquire about handling bugzilla, translations etc.
+Sep 15 11:55:26 <mcrha> I would start with a team, maybe through evo hackers, and then bother packagers, if we all agree with good points on the merging
+Sep 15 11:55:34 <jony> chen: bugzilla is minor, imho. you can do bulk changes .
+Sep 15 11:55:47 <jony> chen: send out a mail on evolution-hackers ?
+Sep 15 11:55:58 * dave_largo (~drichard 207 22 154 8) has joined #evolution-meet
+Sep 15 11:56:03 <chen> mcrha, jony ok I will start with that in that case
+Sep 15 11:56:10 <chen> and try to include packagers there as well
+Sep 15 11:56:15 <jony> cool.
+Sep 15 11:56:21 <mcrha> good
+Sep 15 11:56:21 <chen> i just know seb and opensuse packaging team,
+Sep 15 11:56:26 <chen> anyone else to include ?
+Sep 15 11:56:30 <chen> hey dave_largo
+Sep 15 11:56:37 <dave_largo> chen, please merge PDF drop and drag before the patch is too old :)
+Sep 15 11:56:41 * mcrha hopes chen knows also fedora packages ;)
+Sep 15 11:56:49 <jony> mcrha: :)
+Sep 15 11:57:07 <chen> dave_largo, ah yes. thanks for remidning. i needs to add to taks list without forgetting now
+Sep 15 11:57:20 * EvaSDK (~eva nsg93-9-78-225-4-220 fbx proxad net) has joined #evolution-meet
+Sep 15 11:57:21 <chen> mcrha, mbarnes or u ? :D
+Sep 15 11:57:27 <chen> or is there anyone else?
+Sep 15 11:57:34 <mcrha> we both ;)
+Sep 15 11:57:38 <chen> :)
+Sep 15 11:57:54 <chen> Moving on,
+Sep 15 11:58:04 <chen> i guess lakhil had some agenda to discuss..
+Sep 15 11:58:12 * chen leaves the floor to lakhil
+Sep 15 11:58:23 <mcrha> (moving on to lakhil)
+Sep 15 11:58:32 * abharath stares at the floor :D
+Sep 15 11:58:38 <chen> lakhil, around ?
+Sep 15 11:58:45 * jony waits with reverence ..
+Sep 15 11:58:57 <lakhil> i just want to know the opinion about bug day as we did just after 2.30 release
+Sep 15 11:58:58 <chen> looks like he has taken a break ? :D
+Sep 15 11:59:04 <chen> he's right there :)
+Sep 15 11:59:45 <chen> lakhil, do you want to know specific dates to have which is suitable for everyone ?
+Sep 15 12:00:06 * dave_largo is excited to hear what vibs is working on :D
+Sep 15 12:00:17 <chen> lakhil, maybe you could suggest and we can say yes or no ? :)
+Sep 15 12:00:22 <lakhil> first point - are we all ready for bug day ?
+Sep 15 12:00:24 <chen> dave_largo, :)
+Sep 15 12:00:32 <abharath> dave_largo: ;)
+Sep 15 12:00:34 <chen> lakhil, +1
+Sep 15 12:00:47 <jony> chen: lakhil : hopefully not a wednesday / thursdays. /me has hectic schedule
+Sep 15 12:00:49 <lakhil> we can plan in another 15 days once people are ready
+Sep 15 12:01:38 <mbarnes> this month is a good time for me -- downstream work has quieted down for the moment
+Sep 15 12:01:51 <mcrha> ok, sounds good
+Sep 15 12:02:11 <jony> i can pitch in wherever i can ..
+Sep 15 12:02:16 <chen> lakhil, I guess we have reached a concensus
+Sep 15 12:02:35 <chen> lakhil, do you want to suggest any dates now, while you can make the plan during the mid time?
+Sep 15 12:02:38 <lakhil> i think then we can plan for 1 or 2 day in last week of this month
+Sep 15 12:03:13 <chen> lakhil, 28 or oct 1st ?
+Sep 15 12:03:14 <abharath> lakhil: sounds good
+Sep 15 12:03:28 <chen> skipped the monday :)
+Sep 15 12:03:40 <chen> 28 = tuesday, 1st = Friday
+Sep 15 12:03:44 <lakhil> chen, yeah sept 30 - oct 1 if we plan for 2 days
+Sep 15 12:04:20 <chen> are we going with 2 days ?
+Sep 15 12:04:21 <lakhil> till then packages of evolution 2.32.0 may be available in distro
+Sep 15 12:04:39 <chen> right
+Sep 15 12:04:59 <lakhil> chen, last time i felt if we have 2 days, it gives liberty to opt for one day at least
+Sep 15 12:05:15 <lakhil> if there is any last moment work comes up for anyone
+Sep 15 12:05:19 <abharath> yep. whenever people get free, they can chip in
+Sep 15 12:05:22 <mcrha> it wouldn't be bad to have a break between those two days, as it's sometimes boring to read old bug reports.
+Sep 15 12:05:30 <abharath> mcrha: :D
+Sep 15 12:05:49 <lakhil> mcrha, you can fix bugs mean while and then come back for traiging again
+Sep 15 12:05:57 <jony> heh
+Sep 15 12:06:07 <mcrha> oh, is there a different between those two tasks? ;)
+Sep 15 12:06:09 <chen> cool, i think we have reached a concensus here as well :)
+Sep 15 12:06:18 <lakhil> mcrha, problem with two separate days is to keep flow :)
+Sep 15 12:06:28 <chen> 2 days spread across while people can take breaks :)
+Sep 15 12:06:36 <chen> with some other work as well
+Sep 15 12:06:37 <mbarnes> mcrha: "sometimes"? ;)
+Sep 15 12:06:51 * mcrha takes a note about "mouse-click-flow"
+Sep 15 12:06:55 <jony> oh boy! i miss this team already !
+Sep 15 12:07:00 <chen> hehe
+Sep 15 12:07:23 <lakhil> so Sept 30 and Oct 1. sounds good for bug day ?
+Sep 15 12:07:31 <abharath> lakhil: bug days :P
+Sep 15 12:07:35 <chen> +1
+Sep 15 12:07:43 <lakhil> abharath, if you appear for 2 days ;-)
+Sep 15 12:07:45 <mcrha> definitely there might not be much difference, as the result is always the same, beat the gtk and be below it with total opened bugs
+Sep 15 12:07:59 <abharath> lakhil: naa you can take my word, I'll disappear as usual :)
+Sep 15 12:07:59 <lakhil> mcrha, :)
+Sep 15 12:08:22 * mcrha is fine with date
+Sep 15 12:08:25 <dave_largo> chen: lakhil abharath Email on the way
+Sep 15 12:08:27 * mbarnes to
+Sep 15 12:08:30 <mbarnes> too
+Sep 15 12:08:31 * jony afk - would catch up with logs (off to writing some obj-c)
+Sep 15 12:08:43 <chen> lakhil, and we can then expect the plan during next week ?
+Sep 15 12:08:44 <mcrha> lakhil, just remind me I should pick bugs from other basket those days
+Sep 15 12:08:58 <mbarnes> jony: I'll post the log promptly for a change
+Sep 15 12:09:01 <lakhil> chen, sure
+Sep 15 12:09:22 <jony> mbarnes: thanks ! :)
+Sep 15 12:09:24 <lakhil> mcrha, i will make sure you have maximum bugs :-P
+Sep 15 12:09:36 <chen> Anything else to be discussed from anyone before moving on with individual updates?
+Sep 15 12:09:42 <mcrha> oh, not that way, please not that way, lakhil ;)
+Sep 15 12:09:54 <chen> hehe
+Sep 15 12:10:27 <chen> starting with update from my side,
+Sep 15 12:10:58 <chen> reviewed and consumed the GSoc patches upstream, it was certanily a risk, agree with mcrha..
+Sep 15 12:11:14 <chen> and some fixes on groupwise calendaring to make it usable
+Sep 15 12:11:38 <chen> will be starting with maildir from tomorrow and then with some imapx fixes
+Sep 15 12:11:42 * jpunit1 has quit (Leaving.)
+Sep 15 12:11:49 <chen> and joining with abharath with a bit if ews
+Sep 15 12:11:56 <chen> thats it from my side
+Sep 15 12:12:00 <chen> abharath, updates?
+Sep 15 12:12:38 * jpunit1 (~novell 59 164 190 199) has joined #evolution-meet
+Sep 15 12:12:41 <abharath> Bug fixing for master. Committed all of the downstream bugs to master.
+Sep 15 12:12:55 <chen> abharath, thanks!
+Sep 15 12:13:01 <mbarnes> chen: is this mbox->maildir as the local cache format?
+Sep 15 12:13:02 <chen> dave_largo, anything to share?
+Sep 15 12:13:08 <abharath> The evo-mapi branching done, and still waiting for openchange 0.10 to release. Mcha has made sure the code we have works for 0.9 as well as master. So maybe we can still bump it if it can be done before 2.32 release? No changes to the code needed I suppose.
+Sep 15 12:13:10 <chen> mbarnes, yes
+Sep 15 12:13:23 <dave_largo> I'd like to see all the leaks that you guys plugged ported to SLED 11 if possible
+Sep 15 12:13:47 <dave_largo> So I can do some valgrind work here and not duplicate efforts.
+Sep 15 12:13:54 <dave_largo> we have some users that are really chewing up lots of memory
+Sep 15 12:13:56 <chen> dave_largo, fine, we will port the relevant ones..
+Sep 15 12:14:08 <mbarnes> abharath, mcrha: did the openchange guys ever agree to a 0.9.1 release?
+Sep 15 12:14:09 <mcrha> abharath, not for 2.32, it's too late for distros to include oc 0.10, I believe
+Sep 15 12:14:20 <chen> lakhil, please raise a bug on the same so that its not missed..
+Sep 15 12:14:29 <mcrha> mbarnes, I thought so, but then they decided to do a full release
+Sep 15 12:14:39 <mbarnes> huh. okay
+Sep 15 12:14:42 <lakhil> chen, ok
+Sep 15 12:14:44 <abharath> mbarnes: yes they did, but we decided to wait for 0.10 which didn't come out on time
+Sep 15 12:14:45 <dave_largo> I'd also like to initiate some ideas for a recurring free/busy search
+Sep 15 12:14:53 <dave_largo> Maybe that now goes to vibs?
+Sep 15 12:15:34 <chen> dave_largo, maybe bugs in bgo or SR's plz :)
+Sep 15 12:15:47 <dave_largo> It's not really a bug, it's anew feature.
+Sep 15 12:15:49 <dave_largo> :)
+Sep 15 12:15:51 <chen> EvaSDK, anything to share?
+Sep 15 12:15:55 <dave_largo> but ok, I'll start it there
+Sep 15 12:15:56 <mcrha> hi dave_largo, I hope you use G_SLICE=always-malloc when valgrinding, do you? you may consider it, as it's better with it.
+Sep 15 12:16:24 <dave_largo> mcrha: I wasn't going to heavily valgrind until my leaks are caught up to the work you guys did
+Sep 15 12:16:37 <mbarnes> makes sense
+Sep 15 12:16:43 <chen> mbarnes, can the dependency version of openchange be bimped now?
+Sep 15 12:16:44 <dave_largo> evolution-data-server seems to leak with Groupwise proxies
+Sep 15 12:16:55 <chen> am not sure
+Sep 15 12:17:10 <chen> jony, anything to share?
+Sep 15 12:17:12 <mbarnes> chen: to... 0.10?
+Sep 15 12:17:18 <chen> mbarnes, yes
+Sep 15 12:17:32 <abharath> openchange meeting logs - http://tracker.openchange.org/projects/openchange/wiki/Meeting_of_2010-07-30
+Sep 15 12:17:38 <chen> mbarnes, say if 0.10 is released
+Sep 15 12:17:42 <chen> before 2.32 release
+Sep 15 12:18:04 <chen> just wondering if there is any restriction or a freeze related to that
+Sep 15 12:18:25 <mcrha> there are PAI changes, and it depends on latest samba4 and frankly, latest samba4 is a disaster
+Sep 15 12:18:31 <mcrha> *API
+Sep 15 12:18:32 <chen> i hope jpunit1 is not there atm
+Sep 15 12:18:32 <mbarnes> chen: I'm pretty sure dependencies would be frozen at this point
+Sep 15 12:18:36 <chen> kov, anything to share?
+Sep 15 12:18:57 <jpunit1> chen: i am .. got disconnected for a while
+Sep 15 12:19:11 <chen> abharath, maybe then you would have to consider for 2.32.1 or something and need to inquire with release team or in the wiki
+Sep 15 12:19:25 <chen> jpunit1, go on with ur updates :)
+Sep 15 12:19:39 <jpunit1> Currently working on some mapi bugs and fixed some GW bugs also ..
+Sep 15 12:19:43 <abharath> chen: okay will ping them on it
+Sep 15 12:19:49 <chen> jpunit1, thanks
+Sep 15 12:19:54 <chen> lakhil, updates?
+Sep 15 12:20:21 <lakhil> sanity of dot releases, tested basic functionality of all major back ends before 2.31.92 release, prepared list of important bugs for 2.32 and shared with team and bug triaging as usual
+Sep 15 12:20:37 <chen> lakhil, thanks
+Sep 15 12:20:39 <mcrha> chen, there are two things of samba4, which are quite bad: a) they change locale to "C" always, thus for example sorting in folder tree changes (I didn't try with localization); b) it has its own krb5 implementation, which has same function names with my system krb5, and they interleave, somehow, which leads to crashes
+Sep 15 12:20:42 <chen> mbarnes, updates?
+Sep 15 12:20:50 <mbarnes> importer rewrite is about half-way done
+Sep 15 12:20:50 <mbarnes> so far this week I took a break from that and hacked on Camel's API
+Sep 15 12:20:50 <mbarnes> after the importer rewrite is done I'll start in on GSettings
+Sep 15 12:21:39 <chen> mbarnes, nice, i have some doubts with,
+Sep 15 12:21:47 <chen> cameloperation to GCancellable
+Sep 15 12:22:08 <chen> mbarnes, are we improving the handling of cancellation by any way?
+Sep 15 12:22:20 <mbarnes> chen: catch me after the meeting on that
+Sep 15 12:22:43 <chen> mbarnes, sure, will mail you in detail
+Sep 15 12:22:46 * jpunit1 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
+Sep 15 12:23:01 <chen> i had a problem with cancelling specific requests from imapx
+Sep 15 12:23:09 <chen> mcrha, ok
+Sep 15 12:23:19 * jpunit1 (~novell 59 164 190 199) has joined #evolution-meet
+Sep 15 12:23:27 <chen> mcrha, does updating to 0.10 solve it in any way?
+Sep 15 12:23:49 <mcrha> chen, it's in samba4, not in openchange
+Sep 15 12:23:50 <chen> mcrha, its a naive question, as am not sure if version of samba changes
+Sep 15 12:24:04 <chen> mcrha, ok
+Sep 15 12:24:06 <mcrha> yup, newest openchange depends on samba4 git
+Sep 15 12:24:17 <chen> ah ok
+Sep 15 12:24:53 <chen> mcrha, then it may not be a good choice now to depend on 0.10 before we sort out a solution for those?
+Sep 15 12:25:09 <mcrha> maybe rather before they solve it ;)
+Sep 15 12:25:20 <chen> mcrha, :)
+Sep 15 12:25:28 <abharath> mcrha: :D
+Sep 15 12:25:30 <chen> mcrha, updates?
+Sep 15 12:25:32 <mcrha> and it might be that the ews will be in better shape than ema when it'll happen ;)
+Sep 15 12:25:38 <mcrha> updates: couple Dave's memory leak bugs, then few lakhil's critical warnings bugs, which actually discovered some false-positives and some valid bugs too.
+Sep 15 12:25:54 <chen> mcrha, thanks
+Sep 15 12:25:59 <chen> nicoe, anything to share?
+Sep 15 12:26:15 <chen> vibs, updates?
+Sep 15 12:26:32 <vibs> chen: yeah ....
+Sep 15 12:26:36 <vibs> I worked mostly on groupwise related bugs and Got bugzilla right
+Sep 15 12:26:39 * mcrha is wondering what is vibs working on, as it makes dave_largo so happy
+Sep 15 12:26:58 <chen> vibs, got bugzilla right?
+Sep 15 12:27:05 <abharath> mcrha: no points for guessing ;)
+Sep 15 12:27:14 <vibs> chen: yeah
+Sep 15 12:27:25 <chen> vibs, meaning?
+Sep 15 12:27:35 <mcrha> chen, rights ;)
+Sep 15 12:27:40 <chen> aha
+Sep 15 12:27:45 <mcrha> though I got bugzilla right after few months too ;)
+Sep 15 12:27:45 <chen> :D
+Sep 15 12:28:05 <chen> i thought she corrected something in bugzilla :)
+Sep 15 12:28:18 <chen> what difference between right and rights :)
+Sep 15 12:28:33 <chen> vibs, thanks
+Sep 15 12:28:37 <vibs> chen: sorry for that
+Sep 15 12:28:41 <chen> anything else from anyone ?
+Sep 15 12:28:48 <mcrha> bugzilla is always talking to me in strange words which noone can understand
+Sep 15 12:29:17 <chen> vibs, np :)
+Sep 15 12:29:19 <chen> mcrha, :)
+Sep 15 12:30:00 <mcrha> vibs, didn't tell me what she is working on for dave_largo
+Sep 15 12:30:05 * jpunit11 (~novell 59 164 190 199) has joined #evolution-meet
+Sep 15 12:30:09 <chen> Lets meet next month then and happy hacking/'shooting bugs' :)
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