[gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution meeting log for 2010-07-14.

From: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes src gnome org>
To: commits-list gnome org
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Subject: [gnomeweb-wml] Add Evolution meeting log for 2010-07-14.
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:37:29 +0000 (UTC)
commit 491f6db765cfd5dadddd9bcd899f03f9e1fe67d0
Author: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
Date:   Wed Jul 14 14:36:12 2010 -0400

    Add Evolution meeting log for 2010-07-14.

 projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml       |   10 +-
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml        |  202 ++++++++++++++++++++
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-07-14.txt          |  187 ++++++++++++++++++
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/Makefile.am             |    1 +
 projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml        |    9 +-
 5 files changed, 400 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
index df4d6c8..45242e5 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
@@ -54,9 +54,9 @@
 
 <p>
   The Evolution team gets together on the third Wednesday of each month at
-  <strike>15:30 UTC</strike> for a status meeting on IRC. Anyone is welcome
-  to attend. The meetings are held in <b>#evolution-meet</b> on
-  <b>irc.gimp.org</b>, and are usually about a half-hour long.
+  15:30 UTC for a status meeting on IRC. Anyone is welcome to attend. The
+  meetings are held in <b>#evolution-meet</b> on <b>irc.gimp.org</b>, and
+  are usually about a half-hour long.
 </p>
 
 <p>
@@ -71,6 +71,7 @@
 
 <div class="split-half">
   <ul>
+    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml">2010-07-14</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-06-16.shtml">2010-06-16</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-05-19.shtml">2010-05-19</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-04-28.shtml">2010-04-28</a></li>
@@ -84,7 +85,6 @@
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-03-03.shtml">2010-03-03</a></li>
     <li>2010-02-24 (no meeting)</li>
     <li>2010-02-17 (no meeting)</li>
-    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-02-10.shtml">2010-02-10</a></li>
   </ul>
 
   <div style="clear:both;">&nbsp;</div>
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@
 
 <div class="split-half">
   <ul>
+    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-02-10.shtml">2010-02-10</a></li>
     <li>2010-02-03 (no meeting)</li>
     <li>2010-02-03 (no meeting)</li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-20.shtml">2010-01-20</a></li>
@@ -106,7 +107,6 @@
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-11-25.shtml">2009-11-25</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-11-19.shtml">2009-11-19</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-11-11.shtml">2009-11-11</a></li>
-    <li>2009-11-04 (no meeting)</li>
   </ul>
 </div>
 
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..51dd809
--- /dev/null
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml
@@ -0,0 +1,202 @@
+<!--#set var="title" value="IRC Team Meeting - July 14, 2010"-->
+<!--#set var="section" value="developer"-->
+<!--#include virtual="../head.shtml"-->
+
+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - July 14, 2010</h1>
+<div class="irclog">
+<p id="tJul 14 11:32:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:32:07" class="time">Jul 14 11:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">ok lets get started..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:32:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:32:17" class="time">Jul 14 11:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">starting with project updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:32:38" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:32:38" class="time">Jul 14 11:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">we have two unstable dot releases 2.31.4 and .5 during the last month</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:32:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:32:54" class="time">Jul 14 11:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">A summary of significant changes and we would also hear more specifically during individual updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:33:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:33:17" class="time">Jul 14 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">+ loads of imapx fixes from dwmw2 who is truely awesome!!</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:33:26" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:33:26" class="time">Jul 14 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">+ gtk3 compat fixes</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:33:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:33:35" class="time">Jul 14 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">+ eds backend api changes for GError and similar pruning with CamelException</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:33:52" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:33:52" class="time">Jul 14 11:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">+ imapx multiple connections</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:34:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:34:09" class="time">Jul 14 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">and now the freezes are getting started :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:34:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:34:27" class="time">Jul 14 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">string/UI change announcement period has started from July 12th,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:34:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:34:44" class="time">Jul 14 11:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">any addition of strings or change in UI should be announced to doc and translation teams</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:35:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:35:06" class="time">Jul 14 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">and other freezes which come next month and dates to be noted,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:35:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:35:30" class="time">Jul 14 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Aug 02 - Feature, API/ABI freeze updates</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:35:48" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:35:48" class="time">Jul 14 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Aug 16 - UI freeze</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:35:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:35:53" class="time">Jul 14 11:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Aug 30 - String freeze</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:36:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:36:19" class="time">Jul 14 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, do you want to summarize mapi updates ? :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:36:57" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:36:57" class="time">Jul 14 11:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: well Milan has been fixing most of the bugs. I have been working on exchange2ical</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:37:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:37:11" class="time">Jul 14 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text"> just changed it to a shared library for Evolution to use.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:37:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:37:11" class="time">Jul 14 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">Evolution can now fetch the ical directly using the library,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:37:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:37:35" class="time">Jul 14 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">Also had a chat with the openchange developers. They were kind enough, and agreed to make 0.9.x releases for openchange till 0.10 is out</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:37:48" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:37:48" class="time">Jul 14 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">So I and mcrha would be working to provide them with a list of patches to backport</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:37:50" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:37:50" class="time">Jul 14 11:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, thats a welcome relief </span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:38:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:38:09" class="time">Jul 14 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, and would be good if you provide some info on,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:38:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:38:23" class="time">Jul 14 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">significance of exchange2ical and issues that it would solve..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:38:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:38:30" class="time">Jul 14 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">can I use exchange2ical standalone?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:38:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:38:32" class="time">Jul 14 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">and in 0.31.4 we committed Public calendar/task/address book support in mapi by jpunit</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:38:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:38:41" class="time">Jul 14 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2: yes very much</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:38:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:38:53" class="time">Jul 14 11:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">cool. I have calendar files from ews I need to convert :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:39:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:39:00" class="time">Jul 14 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2: :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:39:15" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:39:15" class="time">Jul 14 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, thanks!!</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:39:31" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:39:31" class="time">Jul 14 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">we would be makng another stable dot&nbsp;&nbsp;release, but we haven't yet decides on the dates. It will,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:39:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:39:41" class="time">Jul 14 11:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">be announced in e-h list once its decided..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:40:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:40:06" class="time">Jul 14 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">we were having a discussion on having a package such as,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:40:25" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:40:25" class="time">Jul 14 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">evolution-collab-backends which can hold all the collab backends such as,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:40:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:40:36" class="time">Jul 14 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">groupwise, exchange, mapi etc.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:40:47" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:40:47" class="time">Jul 14 11:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">any views on that ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:41:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:41:00" class="time">Jul 14 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">why have them in evolution-collab instead of evolution-data-server?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:41:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:41:30" class="time">Jul 14 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, evolution-data-server has too many dependencies and to push frequent updates,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:41:45" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:41:45" class="time">Jul 14 11:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">it troubles with triggerring compilation for all those packages</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:42:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:42:03" class="time">Jul 14 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">so putting them into a combined evo-collab package only makes it a *little* bit nastier, and not as *much* nastier as if it was all in e-d-s? :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:42:20" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:42:20" class="time">Jul 14 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">having them separate, you can do separate releases (and build) as you like</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:42:47" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:42:47" class="time">Jul 14 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, the release cycles would be the same as far as GNOME releases are considered</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:42:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:42:58" class="time">Jul 14 11:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">just helps with packaging in distros and,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:43:10" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:43:10" class="time">Jul 14 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">does it really?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:43:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:43:12" class="time">Jul 14 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">another aspect is that eds will look more like just the library</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:43:31" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:43:31" class="time">Jul 14 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">I would have thought the distro would rather have them separate... at least in separate *binary* packages so t he users can choose which to install.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:43:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:43:36" class="time">Jul 14 11:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, yup at-least with suse, but not sure on other distros</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:44:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:44:08" class="time">Jul 14 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, you mean split up as evo-groupwise, evo-exchange etc. ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:44:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:44:12" class="time">Jul 14 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:44:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:44:19" class="time">Jul 14 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">right that is better</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:44:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:44:28" class="time">Jul 14 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, and btw do you recommend moving all the backends into eds back?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:44:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:44:44" class="time">Jul 14 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">splitting them up separately, it might be easier for the packagers and users that way</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:44:50" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:44:50" class="time">Jul 14 11:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, exchange, groupwise (has not moved out), mapi etc.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:02" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> *Muelli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:07" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">but packagers can still split it up with writing better spec files maybe :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:13" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, dwmw2 is speaking about splitting while packaging,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:22" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">not maintaining as separate packages</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:28" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: I have no particular preference either way. I'm just confused that anyone would argue for a half-way-house</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:30" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, so the code resides in eds iiuc</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:34" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">I see the attraction of splitting them up</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:45:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:45:44" class="time">Jul 14 11:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">and I see some (perhaps less) in putting it all back into e-d-s</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:46:33" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:46:33" class="time">Jul 14 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, so,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:46:38" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:46:38" class="time">Jul 14 11:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">am a bit confused :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:47:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:47:00" class="time">Jul 14 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, iiuc your saying having all the code in eds would be better ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:47:21" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:47:21" class="time">Jul 14 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">and leave it for packagers to split them up while packaging in the distros ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:47:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:47:34" class="time">Jul 14 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: I'm saying I don't really care if it's all in e-d-s, or if it's all separate; I just don't see the point in an evo-collab collection</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:47:51" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:47:51" class="time">Jul 14 11:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">+1</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:48:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:48:06" class="time">Jul 14 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">given that we're doing time-based releases in sync with gnome, the biggest advantage to separation is gone. So yeah, on balance I suppose we might as well keep it all in e-d-s</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:48:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:48:07" class="time">Jul 14 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, the problem with separate is that they might become un-maintained over a period of time..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:48:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:48:23" class="time">Jul 14 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">it's not as if it's hard for packagers to make a single source package&nbsp;&nbsp;spit out multiple binary packages</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:48:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:48:27" class="time">Jul 14 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: indeed.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:48:51" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:48:51" class="time">Jul 14 11:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">on balance, I think merging them into eds is the better option.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:49:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:49:06" class="time">Jul 14 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">if I change something, I'll grep for the callers that are affected</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:49:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:49:12" class="time">Jul 14 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">if they're not in the same git tree, I'll ignore them</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:49:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:49:27" class="time">Jul 14 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, absolutely</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:49:50" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:49:50" class="time">Jul 14 11:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, i just have a packaging question though, prolly i will clear it later</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:50:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:50:08" class="time">Jul 14 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, but atm i feel its better in eds ignoring my packaging thing</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:50:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:50:36" class="time">Jul 14 11:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Fridrich, do you have any opinions here?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:51:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:51:22" class="time">Jul 14 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, maybe we will discuss out on the mailing list as well and bring it to a conclusion with action..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:51:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:51:41" class="time">Jul 14 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:51:42" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:51:42" class="time">Jul 14 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">thats the one item i had for discussion here..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:51:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:51:54" class="time">Jul 14 11:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">anything else from anyone before we move on with individual updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:52:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:52:19" class="time">Jul 14 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, so finalized on the mapi versioning ? :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:52:52" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:52:52" class="time">Jul 14 11:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, +updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:53:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:53:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">updates from my side,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:53:15" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:53:15" class="time">Jul 14 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">some bug fixes, imapx connection manager, need to get started on maildir stuff, some cool demos/talks to our md (evo propoganda) :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:53:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:53:43" class="time">Jul 14 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: nothing much to add</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:53:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:53:43" class="time">Jul 14 11:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Let me now paste the updates from mbarnes|away </span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">I've been causing lots of trouble in Camel lately:</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">I replaced CamelException with GError,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">and added a bunch of runtime checks to make sure return values and GErrors agree,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">there's also the issue of how Camel indicates success or failure,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">in that half the API returns 0/-1, the other half returns TRUE/FALSE,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">I'd like to more entirely to TRUE/FALSE, but that's a pretty devious API change,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:04" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">it will have to be done very carefully, and with lots of fanfare on evo-hackers,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:06" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">my next projects are:</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:08" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dismantle ~/.evolution and migrate data to relocatable XDG base dirs,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:10" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:10" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">then, start on GSettings migration + keyfile-based account storage,</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:12" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">and after 3.0: get serious about WebKit.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:23" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">so webkit is going to be after 3.0</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:44" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">ok I was about to ask about webkit :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:46" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:46" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">vibha - on vacation for this week. Moved the groupwise code out of evo+eds.. (chen - now i wonder if its required)..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:54:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:54:58" class="time">Jul 14 11:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Corsac, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:55:28" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 11:55:28" class="time">Jul 14 11:55</a> *chen would be reviewing vibha's thunderbird filter migration patch and patches from jpunit this week..</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:55:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:55:34" class="time">Jul 14 11:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:56:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:56:14" class="time">Jul 14 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Fridrich, updateS?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:56:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:56:23" class="time">Jul 14 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">sorry for the 's'</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:56:29" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:56:29" class="time">Jul 14 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">nothing exciting.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:56:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:56:44" class="time">Jul 14 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, oh no thats the last thing i expected :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:56:46" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:56:46" class="time">Jul 14 11:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">going to crawl back under my rock and play with ews stuff for a while, as soon as I'm done with the reply bits I've been looking at</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:57:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:57:02" class="time">Jul 14 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, nice :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:57:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:57:08" class="time">Jul 14 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jpunit, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:57:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:57:12" class="time">Jul 14 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">well, I have my Exchange calendar synced to local files using the EWS protocol. You can be excited by that if you like</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:57:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:57:32" class="time">Jul 14 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">But I'm not suggesting that we ditch evolution-mapi *quite* yet :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:57:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:57:34" class="time">Jul 14 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, definetly exited :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:57:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:57:43" class="time">Jul 14 11:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, you have made abharath happy now :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:03" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jpunit&gt;</span> <span class="text">Merged and worked on Slusny's EDS optmization patches and it is working fine now</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:13" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, btw your going to convert that script in to C lib.&nbsp;&nbsp;?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:30" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">whatever is fast and working great, I am fine with it :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:36" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jpunit, nice, will get those stuff reviewed this week and we can get that in..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:48" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:48" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">kov, anything to share?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:53" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:54" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jpunit&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: yes .. </span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:58:59" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:58:59" class="time">Jul 14 11:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: nah, I was going to do shell language bindings for evo...</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:59:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:59:14" class="time">Jul 14 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, bug triaging, sanity and tarball testing of dot releases, tested public calendar / address book support in MAPI,&nbsp;&nbsp;tested Gerror changes</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:59:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:59:19" class="time">Jul 14 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, more interesting :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:59:29" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 11:59:29" class="time">Jul 14 11:59</a> *chen exited to see that :)</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 11:59:48" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 11:59:48" class="time">Jul 14 11:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil, thanks and imapx con_man is added to ur list now i guess :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:13" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:13" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> *jpunit is now known as jpunit|away</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:16" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">after guadec :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:17" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">anything else from anyone?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:18" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:18" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> *dave_largo (~drichard 207 22 154 8) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:22" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">hey dave_largo </span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:26" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:26" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">Its definitely added to dwmw2's list ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:35" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">this is the last meeting before GUADEC :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:44" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, will you be there for GUADEC?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:00:48" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:00:48" class="time">Jul 14 12:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">wasn't planning to be</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:01:01" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:01:01" class="time">Jul 14 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, we were just going through individual updates..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:01:33" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 12:01:33" class="time">Jul 14 12:01</a> *chen gets reminded of the pdf drag+drop patch</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:01:43" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 12:01:43" class="time">Jul 14 12:01</a> *chen adds it to the review list</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:01:51" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:01:51" class="time">Jul 14 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">I would like to get that merged please, while the code will go in</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:01:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:01:58" class="time">Jul 14 12:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, would be great if you join, even for a day :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:02" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, don't forget to merge the second patch which eliminated the deadlock</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:13" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:23" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">pdf drop and drag is amazing and works great</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:24" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, anything else?</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:29" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:29" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">in Den Haag? </span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:33" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:33" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:35" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">hm, I may manage that</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:44" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, would be great!!</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:53" class="action"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:53" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> *dwmw2 checks his calendar... by grepping the XML files in the directory</p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:56" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:56" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">Just a flow of crashers, hopefully we can hit those soon and get some patches upstream</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:02:56" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:02:56" class="time">Jul 14 12:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;dwmw2&gt;</span> <span class="text">some work required on this :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:03:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:03:03" class="time">Jul 14 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dwmw2, will send you the schedule of our evo talks as well</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:03:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:03:28" class="time">Jul 14 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, will be working on those after some patch reviews</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:03:52" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:03:52" class="time">Jul 14 12:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, primarily the crashers first</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:04:05" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:04:05" class="time">Jul 14 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, you are so talented, I know you could knock these out quickly.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:04:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:04:30" class="time">Jul 14 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, lol your are great manager :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:04:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:04:41" class="time">Jul 14 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo: that's the magic of beer, not the talent :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:04:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:04:43" class="time">Jul 14 12:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">:D</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:00" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">LOL....crashers and the deadlock</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:03" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">oh oh /me becomes silent :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:09" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">and then re-merge the ics code please</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:12" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, dave_largo would be happy to send a beer tanker if he gets all crashes fixed :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:13" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">sure</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:22" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">lol</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:32" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">Deadlocks are about 85% always when re-saving changes to a meeting or appointment</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:32" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">anything else from anyone apart from beers :D</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:05:57" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:05:57" class="time">Jul 14 12:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, please send the gdb traces when the dead-lock happens..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:08" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">It's already submitted to the bug report</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:12" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">this one is happening a lot:</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:15" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:15" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">#12 0x00007fe00a779797 in attendee_editing_canceled_cb (</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:16" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;renderer=&lt;value optimized out&gt;, view=0x19f1030)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:16" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;at e-meeting-list-view.c:473</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:16" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, ah ok, i will check it out</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:43" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, i have not yet gone through all the bugs, will be starting on Friday or next week..</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:55" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:55" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, I'll send the beer for real, or take you guys on roller coasters.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:06:59" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:06:59" class="time">Jul 14 12:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">Busch Gardens on me</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:07:05" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:07:05" class="time">Jul 14 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lol :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:07:10" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:07:10" class="time">Jul 14 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">Busch Gardens has a beer garden</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:07:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:07:36" class="time">Jul 14 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, i can answer here due to COBE but definetly lets have it as a secret :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:07:42" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:07:42" class="time">Jul 14 12:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">*cant</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:08:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:08:13" class="time">Jul 14 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">so crashers + ics + deadlocks and we will be in much better shape.</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:08:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:08:13" class="time">Jul 14 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Thats it for this meeting and lets have more fun after GUADEC :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:08:18" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:08:18" class="time">Jul 14 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">later</span></p>
+<p id="tJul 14 12:08:31" class="comment"><a href="#tJul 14 12:08:31" class="time">Jul 14 12:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Thanks everyone!!</span></p>
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+Jul 14 11:32:07 <chen>	ok lets get started..
+Jul 14 11:32:17 <chen>	starting with project updates,
+Jul 14 11:32:38 <chen>	we have two unstable dot releases 2.31.4 and .5 during the last month
+Jul 14 11:32:54 <chen>	A summary of significant changes and we would also hear more specifically during individual updates,
+Jul 14 11:33:17 <chen>	+ loads of imapx fixes from dwmw2 who is truely awesome!!
+Jul 14 11:33:26 <chen>	+ gtk3 compat fixes
+Jul 14 11:33:35 <chen>	+ eds backend api changes for GError and similar pruning with CamelException
+Jul 14 11:33:52 <chen>	+ imapx multiple connections
+Jul 14 11:34:09 <chen>	and now the freezes are getting started :)
+Jul 14 11:34:27 <chen>	string/UI change announcement period has started from July 12th,
+Jul 14 11:34:44 <chen>	any addition of strings or change in UI should be announced to doc and translation teams
+Jul 14 11:35:06 <chen>	and other freezes which come next month and dates to be noted,
+Jul 14 11:35:30 <chen>	Aug 02 - Feature, API/ABI freeze updates
+Jul 14 11:35:48 <chen>	Aug 16 - UI freeze
+Jul 14 11:35:53 <chen>	Aug 30 - String freeze
+Jul 14 11:36:19 <chen>	abharath, do you want to summarize mapi updates ? :)
+Jul 14 11:36:57 <abharath>	chen: well Milan has been fixing most of the bugs. I have been working on exchange2ical
+Jul 14 11:37:11 <abharath>	 just changed it to a shared library for Evolution to use.
+Jul 14 11:37:11 <abharath>	Evolution can now fetch the ical directly using the library,
+Jul 14 11:37:35 <abharath>	Also had a chat with the openchange developers. They were kind enough, and agreed to make 0.9.x releases for openchange till 0.10 is out
+Jul 14 11:37:48 <abharath>	So I and mcrha would be working to provide them with a list of patches to backport
+Jul 14 11:37:50 <chen>	abharath, thats a welcome relief 
+Jul 14 11:38:09 <chen>	abharath, and would be good if you provide some info on,
+Jul 14 11:38:23 <chen>	significance of exchange2ical and issues that it would solve..
+Jul 14 11:38:30 <dwmw2>	can I use exchange2ical standalone?
+Jul 14 11:38:32 <abharath>	and in 0.31.4 we committed Public calendar/task/address book support in mapi by jpunit
+Jul 14 11:38:41 <abharath>	dwmw2: yes very much
+Jul 14 11:38:53 <dwmw2>	cool. I have calendar files from ews I need to convert :)
+Jul 14 11:39:00 <abharath>	dwmw2: :)
+Jul 14 11:39:15 <chen>	abharath, thanks!!
+Jul 14 11:39:31 <chen>	we would be makng another stable dot  release, but we haven't yet decides on the dates. It will,
+Jul 14 11:39:41 <chen>	be announced in e-h list once its decided..
+Jul 14 11:40:06 <chen>	we were having a discussion on having a package such as,
+Jul 14 11:40:25 <chen>	evolution-collab-backends which can hold all the collab backends such as,
+Jul 14 11:40:36 <chen>	groupwise, exchange, mapi etc.
+Jul 14 11:40:47 <chen>	any views on that ?
+Jul 14 11:41:00 <dwmw2>	why have them in evolution-collab instead of evolution-data-server?
+Jul 14 11:41:30 <chen>	dwmw2, evolution-data-server has too many dependencies and to push frequent updates,
+Jul 14 11:41:45 <chen>	it troubles with triggerring compilation for all those packages
+Jul 14 11:42:03 <dwmw2>	so putting them into a combined evo-collab package only makes it a *little* bit nastier, and not as *much* nastier as if it was all in e-d-s? :)
+Jul 14 11:42:20 <dwmw2>	having them separate, you can do separate releases (and build) as you like
+Jul 14 11:42:47 <chen>	dwmw2, the release cycles would be the same as far as GNOME releases are considered
+Jul 14 11:42:58 <chen>	just helps with packaging in distros and,
+Jul 14 11:43:10 <dwmw2>	does it really?
+Jul 14 11:43:12 <chen>	another aspect is that eds will look more like just the library
+Jul 14 11:43:31 <dwmw2>	I would have thought the distro would rather have them separate... at least in separate *binary* packages so t he users can choose which to install.
+Jul 14 11:43:36 <chen>	dwmw2, yup at-least with suse, but not sure on other distros
+Jul 14 11:44:08 <chen>	dwmw2, you mean split up as evo-groupwise, evo-exchange etc. ?
+Jul 14 11:44:12 <dwmw2>	yeah
+Jul 14 11:44:19 <abharath>	right that is better
+Jul 14 11:44:28 <chen>	dwmw2, and btw do you recommend moving all the backends into eds back?
+Jul 14 11:44:44 <abharath>	splitting them up separately, it might be easier for the packagers and users that way
+Jul 14 11:44:50 <chen>	dwmw2, exchange, groupwise (has not moved out), mapi etc.
+Jul 14 11:45:02 *	Muelli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
+Jul 14 11:45:07 <abharath>	but packagers can still split it up with writing better spec files maybe :)
+Jul 14 11:45:13 <chen>	abharath, dwmw2 is speaking about splitting while packaging,
+Jul 14 11:45:22 <chen>	not maintaining as separate packages
+Jul 14 11:45:28 <dwmw2>	chen: I have no particular preference either way. I'm just confused that anyone would argue for a half-way-house
+Jul 14 11:45:30 <chen>	abharath, so the code resides in eds iiuc
+Jul 14 11:45:34 <dwmw2>	I see the attraction of splitting them up
+Jul 14 11:45:44 <dwmw2>	and I see some (perhaps less) in putting it all back into e-d-s
+Jul 14 11:46:33 <chen>	dwmw2, so,
+Jul 14 11:46:38 <chen>	am a bit confused :)
+Jul 14 11:47:00 <chen>	dwmw2, iiuc your saying having all the code in eds would be better ?
+Jul 14 11:47:21 <chen>	and leave it for packagers to split them up while packaging in the distros ?
+Jul 14 11:47:34 <dwmw2>	chen: I'm saying I don't really care if it's all in e-d-s, or if it's all separate; I just don't see the point in an evo-collab collection
+Jul 14 11:47:51 <abharath>	+1
+Jul 14 11:48:06 <dwmw2>	given that we're doing time-based releases in sync with gnome, the biggest advantage to separation is gone. So yeah, on balance I suppose we might as well keep it all in e-d-s
+Jul 14 11:48:07 <chen>	dwmw2, the problem with separate is that they might become un-maintained over a period of time..
+Jul 14 11:48:23 <dwmw2>	it's not as if it's hard for packagers to make a single source package  spit out multiple binary packages
+Jul 14 11:48:27 <dwmw2>	chen: indeed.
+Jul 14 11:48:51 <dwmw2>	on balance, I think merging them into eds is the better option.
+Jul 14 11:49:06 <dwmw2>	if I change something, I'll grep for the callers that are affected
+Jul 14 11:49:12 <dwmw2>	if they're not in the same git tree, I'll ignore them
+Jul 14 11:49:27 <chen>	dwmw2, absolutely
+Jul 14 11:49:50 <chen>	dwmw2, i just have a packaging question though, prolly i will clear it later
+Jul 14 11:50:08 <chen>	dwmw2, but atm i feel its better in eds ignoring my packaging thing
+Jul 14 11:50:36 <chen>	Fridrich, do you have any opinions here?
+Jul 14 11:51:22 <chen>	dwmw2, maybe we will discuss out on the mailing list as well and bring it to a conclusion with action..
+Jul 14 11:51:41 <dwmw2>	yeah
+Jul 14 11:51:42 <chen>	thats the one item i had for discussion here..
+Jul 14 11:51:54 <chen>	anything else from anyone before we move on with individual updates?
+Jul 14 11:52:19 <chen>	abharath, so finalized on the mapi versioning ? :)
+Jul 14 11:52:52 <chen>	abharath, +updates?
+Jul 14 11:53:02 <chen>	updates from my side,
+Jul 14 11:53:15 <chen>	some bug fixes, imapx connection manager, need to get started on maildir stuff, some cool demos/talks to our md (evo propoganda) :)
+Jul 14 11:53:43 <abharath>	chen: nothing much to add
+Jul 14 11:53:43 <chen>	Let me now paste the updates from mbarnes|away 
+Jul 14 11:54:02 <chen>	I've been causing lots of trouble in Camel lately:
+Jul 14 11:54:02 <chen>	I replaced CamelException with GError,
+Jul 14 11:54:02 <chen>	and added a bunch of runtime checks to make sure return values and GErrors agree,
+Jul 14 11:54:02 <chen>	there's also the issue of how Camel indicates success or failure,
+Jul 14 11:54:02 <chen>	in that half the API returns 0/-1, the other half returns TRUE/FALSE,
+Jul 14 11:54:02 <chen>	I'd like to more entirely to TRUE/FALSE, but that's a pretty devious API change,
+Jul 14 11:54:04 <chen>	it will have to be done very carefully, and with lots of fanfare on evo-hackers,
+Jul 14 11:54:06 <chen>	my next projects are:
+Jul 14 11:54:08 <chen>	dismantle ~/.evolution and migrate data to relocatable XDG base dirs,
+Jul 14 11:54:10 <chen>	then, start on GSettings migration + keyfile-based account storage,
+Jul 14 11:54:12 <chen>	and after 3.0: get serious about WebKit.
+Jul 14 11:54:23 <chen>	so webkit is going to be after 3.0
+Jul 14 11:54:44 <abharath>	ok I was about to ask about webkit :)
+Jul 14 11:54:46 <chen>	vibha - on vacation for this week. Moved the groupwise code out of evo+eds.. (chen - now i wonder if its required)..
+Jul 14 11:54:58 <chen>	Corsac, anything to share?
+Jul 14 11:55:28 *	chen would be reviewing vibha's thunderbird filter migration patch and patches from jpunit this week..
+Jul 14 11:55:34 <chen>	dwmw2, updates?
+Jul 14 11:56:14 <chen>	Fridrich, updateS?
+Jul 14 11:56:23 <chen>	sorry for the 's'
+Jul 14 11:56:29 <dwmw2>	nothing exciting.
+Jul 14 11:56:44 <chen>	dwmw2, oh no thats the last thing i expected :)
+Jul 14 11:56:46 <dwmw2>	going to crawl back under my rock and play with ews stuff for a while, as soon as I'm done with the reply bits I've been looking at
+Jul 14 11:57:02 <chen>	dwmw2, nice :)
+Jul 14 11:57:08 <chen>	jpunit, updates?
+Jul 14 11:57:12 <dwmw2>	well, I have my Exchange calendar synced to local files using the EWS protocol. You can be excited by that if you like
+Jul 14 11:57:32 <dwmw2>	But I'm not suggesting that we ditch evolution-mapi *quite* yet :)
+Jul 14 11:57:34 <chen>	dwmw2, definetly exited :)
+Jul 14 11:57:43 <chen>	dwmw2, you have made abharath happy now :)
+Jul 14 11:58:03 <jpunit>	Merged and worked on Slusny's EDS optmization patches and it is working fine now
+Jul 14 11:58:13 <chen>	dwmw2, btw your going to convert that script in to C lib.  ?
+Jul 14 11:58:30 <abharath>	whatever is fast and working great, I am fine with it :)
+Jul 14 11:58:36 <chen>	jpunit, nice, will get those stuff reviewed this week and we can get that in..
+Jul 14 11:58:48 <chen>	kov, anything to share?
+Jul 14 11:58:53 <chen>	lakhil, updates?
+Jul 14 11:58:54 <jpunit>	chen: yes .. 
+Jul 14 11:58:59 <dwmw2>	chen: nah, I was going to do shell language bindings for evo...
+Jul 14 11:59:14 <lakhil>	chen, bug triaging, sanity and tarball testing of dot releases, tested public calendar / address book support in MAPI,  tested Gerror changes
+Jul 14 11:59:19 <chen>	dwmw2, more interesting :)
+Jul 14 11:59:29 *	chen exited to see that :)
+Jul 14 11:59:48 <chen>	lakhil, thanks and imapx con_man is added to ur list now i guess :)
+Jul 14 12:00:13 *	jpunit is now known as jpunit|away
+Jul 14 12:00:16 <lakhil>	after guadec :)
+Jul 14 12:00:17 <chen>	anything else from anyone?
+Jul 14 12:00:18 *	dave_largo (~drichard 207 22 154 8) has joined #evolution-meet
+Jul 14 12:00:22 <chen>	hey dave_largo 
+Jul 14 12:00:26 <abharath>	Its definitely added to dwmw2's list ;)
+Jul 14 12:00:35 <chen>	this is the last meeting before GUADEC :)
+Jul 14 12:00:44 <chen>	dwmw2, will you be there for GUADEC?
+Jul 14 12:00:48 <dwmw2>	wasn't planning to be
+Jul 14 12:01:01 <chen>	dave_largo, we were just going through individual updates..
+Jul 14 12:01:33 *	chen gets reminded of the pdf drag+drop patch
+Jul 14 12:01:43 *	chen adds it to the review list
+Jul 14 12:01:51 <dave_largo>	I would like to get that merged please, while the code will go in
+Jul 14 12:01:58 <chen>	dwmw2, would be great if you join, even for a day :)
+Jul 14 12:02:02 <dave_largo>	chen, don't forget to merge the second patch which eliminated the deadlock
+Jul 14 12:02:13 <chen>	dave_largo, sure
+Jul 14 12:02:23 <dave_largo>	pdf drop and drag is amazing and works great
+Jul 14 12:02:24 <chen>	dave_largo, anything else?
+Jul 14 12:02:29 <dwmw2>	in Den Haag? 
+Jul 14 12:02:33 <chen>	yeah
+Jul 14 12:02:35 <dwmw2>	hm, I may manage that
+Jul 14 12:02:44 <chen>	dwmw2, would be great!!
+Jul 14 12:02:53 *	dwmw2 checks his calendar... by grepping the XML files in the directory
+Jul 14 12:02:56 <dave_largo>	Just a flow of crashers, hopefully we can hit those soon and get some patches upstream
+Jul 14 12:02:56 <dwmw2>	some work required on this :)
+Jul 14 12:03:03 <chen>	dwmw2, will send you the schedule of our evo talks as well
+Jul 14 12:03:28 <chen>	dave_largo, will be working on those after some patch reviews
+Jul 14 12:03:52 <chen>	dave_largo, primarily the crashers first
+Jul 14 12:04:05 <dave_largo>	chen, you are so talented, I know you could knock these out quickly.  
+Jul 14 12:04:30 <chen>	dave_largo, lol your are great manager :)
+Jul 14 12:04:41 <abharath>	dave_largo: that's the magic of beer, not the talent :)
+Jul 14 12:04:43 <lakhil>	:D
+Jul 14 12:05:00 <dave_largo>	LOL....crashers and the deadlock
+Jul 14 12:05:03 <chen>	oh oh /me becomes silent :)
+Jul 14 12:05:09 <dave_largo>	and then re-merge the ics code please
+Jul 14 12:05:12 <lakhil>	abharath, dave_largo would be happy to send a beer tanker if he gets all crashes fixed :)
+Jul 14 12:05:13 <chen>	sure
+Jul 14 12:05:22 <abharath>	lol
+Jul 14 12:05:32 <dave_largo>	Deadlocks are about 85% always when re-saving changes to a meeting or appointment
+Jul 14 12:05:32 <chen>	anything else from anyone apart from beers :D
+Jul 14 12:05:57 <chen>	dave_largo, please send the gdb traces when the dead-lock happens..
+Jul 14 12:06:08 <dave_largo>	It's already submitted to the bug report
+Jul 14 12:06:12 <dave_largo>	this one is happening a lot:
+Jul 14 12:06:15 <dave_largo>	#12 0x00007fe00a779797 in attendee_editing_canceled_cb (
+Jul 14 12:06:16 <dave_largo>	    renderer=<value optimized out>, view=0x19f1030)
+Jul 14 12:06:16 <dave_largo>	    at e-meeting-list-view.c:473
+Jul 14 12:06:16 <chen>	dave_largo, ah ok, i will check it out
+Jul 14 12:06:43 <chen>	dave_largo, i have not yet gone through all the bugs, will be starting on Friday or next week..
+Jul 14 12:06:55 <dave_largo>	chen, I'll send the beer for real, or take you guys on roller coasters.
+Jul 14 12:06:59 <dave_largo>	Busch Gardens on me
+Jul 14 12:07:05 <chen>	lol :)
+Jul 14 12:07:10 <dave_largo>	Busch Gardens has a beer garden
+Jul 14 12:07:36 <chen>	dave_largo, i can answer here due to COBE but definetly lets have it as a secret :)
+Jul 14 12:07:42 <chen>	*cant
+Jul 14 12:08:13 <dave_largo>	so crashers + ics + deadlocks and we will be in much better shape.
+Jul 14 12:08:13 <chen>	Thats it for this meeting and lets have more fun after GUADEC :)
+Jul 14 12:08:18 <dave_largo>	later
+Jul 14 12:08:31 <chen>	Thanks everyone!!
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diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml
index b6469dc..6e8d723 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml
@@ -6,9 +6,9 @@
 
 <p>
   The Evolution team gets together on the third Wednesday of each month at
-  <strike>15:30 UTC</strike> for a status meeting on IRC. Anyone is welcome
-  to attend. The meetings are held in <b>#evolution-meet</b> on
-  <b>irc.gimp.org</b>, and are usually about a half-hour long.
+  15:30 UTC for a status meeting on IRC. Anyone is welcome to attend. The
+  meetings are held in <b>#evolution-meet</b> on <b>irc.gimp.org</b>, and
+  are usually about a half-hour long.
 </p>
 
 <p>
@@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
 
 <div class="split-half">
   <ul>
+    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-07-14.shtml">2010-07-14</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-06-16.shtml">2010-06-16</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-05-19.shtml">2010-05-19</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-04-28.shtml">2010-04-28</a></li>
@@ -46,7 +47,7 @@
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-20.shtml">2010-01-20</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml">2010-01-13</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-06.shtml">2010-01-06</a></li>
-    <!-- Comment this when the lists are even. --><!--<br>-->
+    <!-- Comment this when the lists are even. --><br>
   </ul>
 </div>
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